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Feb 22, 2014 at 11:33 AM Post #12,091 of 21,868
alrainbow said:
Without getting bashed have you tried EQ before the mod and after.

Al
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I have tried EQ before. While it does offer tremendous flexibility, it doesn't fix things on the "hardware side" of things. Granted, these are pretty small negatives we're talking about here, but if we can develop an inherent sonic upgrade then why not :)
 
EDIT: I must admit Mr. Fang did an incredible job on these cans, it's very hard to deliver a small improvement to the HE-6 even with Jerg and others spending tons of time and effort on improving the various planars.
 
Feb 22, 2014 at 11:34 AM Post #12,092 of 21,868
I do not. , I do not have time to play and then evaluate. For me playing with EQ is just faster. And I really do not use that very much either. For me I would like those aduzze leather angled pads. But for looks and comfort. As I do not want to change the sound. It is just a question in curiosity way only.
For me with changing amps and tubes of some amps. It would be very hard for me to correctly evaluate the benefits .
Al
 
Feb 22, 2014 at 11:41 AM Post #12,093 of 21,868
alrainbow said:
I do not. , I do not have time to play and then evaluate. For me playing with EQ is just faster. And I really do not use that very much either. For me I would like those aduzze leather angled pads. But for looks and comfort. As I do not want to change the sound. It is just a question in curiosity way only.

Al
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Oh, I understand Al. No need to feel defensive, we're all friends here :)
Yeah the Audeze pads bring greater comfort, but I have a feeling angled Hifiman pads are the way to go. If I am not mistaken, isn't Hifiman coming out with angled pads upon release of their new mid-tier lineup? That could be a great option for you to check out since they would be very easy to install.
 
Feb 22, 2014 at 11:47 AM Post #12,094 of 21,868
Sorry I get bashed sometimes when I try to ask or suggest things. We are cool. And most every one here is too.

I did not know that. Of all the stuff I have to use . My two fav,s are this he6 and the HE60. They both have a musically engaging feeling. Ingues it's the coloring they add as just what we like to here. We all strive for perfection in being flat. But we do not hear flat and nor is anything we have flat for everyone. I had a bit of a spat on another forum for someone's praise of the LCD x. I had it for two weeks. It's just to bla say for me. Even with EQ . The HE6 blows it away to my ears. But the guy did prove a point of using the EQ to me. .

Al
 
Feb 22, 2014 at 11:54 AM Post #12,095 of 21,868
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happy camper said:
The instruments have more isolation but it doesn't impact the resonances of non electric instruments. They sound like HiFiMan presentation. I'm getting familiar with the 6 again but next week I'll take them down to Darryl's audio dungeon for a comparison to his. His are hardwired so the cable will be different from the XLR to the drivers. Otherwise, we get to hear what the felt and grill changes do in real time.
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Hehe, you too? 
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Cool! I'd like to see Darryl's "dungeon" 
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Not much to see anymore.  Now I really see why Dave only has the 6s and stood by them for years.  I've trimmed down a lot - to one amp and one DAC (thus far).  One interesting thing I'm finding out though.  The HD800s are really sounding good off the F1J.  I have to get a second set of ears in here (Dave) to get some other views.  
 
Feb 22, 2014 at 12:04 PM Post #12,096 of 21,868
preproman said:
 
 
Not much to see anymore.  Now I really see why Dave only has the 6s and stood by them for years.  I've trimmed down a lot - to one amp and one DAC (thus far).  One interesting thing I'm finding out though.  The HD800s are really sounding good off the F1J.  I have to get a second set of ears in here (Dave) to get some other views.  
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Hey look! It's the guy with the dungeon. 
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Curiously, if 'Happy Camper' is bringing ears, who's bringing the food & drink? 
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Would love to crash a gathering with "The Treacherous Two" someday. 
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Feb 22, 2014 at 12:17 PM Post #12,097 of 21,868
preproman said:
   
 
Not much to see anymore.  Now I really see why Dave only has the 6s and stood by them for years.  I've trimmed down a lot - to one amp and one DAC (thus far).  One interesting thing I'm finding out though.  The HD800s are really sounding good off the F1J.  I have to get a second set of ears in here (Dave) to get some other views.  
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Yeah, that has been happening to me too lol. However, I still like to tinker and enjoy trying various things. I am still interested in the Schiit Yggdrasil DAC, but my interest has diminished because I really only have a very small nit to pick with the DA8. That nit is the pre/post ringing on the impulse response when in 'sharp' mode, which is a 20hz-20khz flat response. All Sigma Delta DACs have this limitation, and only a discrete DAC can alleviate that issue, but only if you parallel tons of them or you lose the incredible detail and fidelity the ESS9018 offers.
 
If/when some ears I trust try the Yggy, I'll be asking for that specific information. If it doesn't pan out, then I can rejoice for my wallet will be happy lol.
 
It's such a nice feeling to really enjoy what you have and the HE-6 gives that to me for sure, just like it has to HC and yourself. 
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Feb 22, 2014 at 12:36 PM Post #12,099 of 21,868
silent one said:
   
Hey look! It's the guy with the dungeon. 
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Curiously, if 'Happy Camper' is bringing ears, who's bringing the food & drink? 
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Would love to crash a gathering with "The Treacherous Two" someday. 
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I leave that to you, I trust you'll bring a really good red wine 
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   What I do have for you is lots of Latin Jazz to listen to..  My collection is growing.  I'm able to get any and all of these and rip them from my local library - They have pretty much every thing I could want.  Take a look at the link and search around a bit.
 
http://catalog.cincinnatilibrary.org/iii/encore/search/C__S%28Latin%20Jazz%29%20f%3Aj__Orightresult__U1?lang=eng&suite=cobalt
 
Feb 22, 2014 at 12:39 PM Post #12,100 of 21,868
All the mods on my HE-6:
1) replaced grill with a more open mesh and a nylon dust cover - improved soundstage and reduced most of the treble tizziness
2) J$ Beyer leather earpads - richer bottom end
3) removed that quarter foam in front - meh it was disintegrating anyways, and don't forget those little pieces of clear tape that were holding it down that start to melt
4) felt and twaron fibres under the pads - turns down the treble, a bit like the Senn HD600/650... probably too much for some, but I'm particularly sensitive to treble and will give up some transients/detailing in exchange for less fatigue
5) fuzzor - maybe a tiny tiny change in the midrange, but I'm into placebo range since the felt probably does more than the fuzzors in my case
6) hardwired - because I'm boss like that, and it looks good
 
Feb 22, 2014 at 12:44 PM Post #12,101 of 21,868
armaegis said:
  All the mods on my HE-6:
1) replaced grill with a more open mesh and a nylon dust cover - improved soundstage and reduced most of the treble tizziness
2) J$ Beyer leather earpads - richer bottom end
3) removed that quarter foam in front - meh it was disintegrating anyways, and don't forget those little pieces of clear tape that were holding it down that start to melt
4) felt and twaron fibres under the pads - turns down the treble, a bit like the Senn HD600/650... probably too much for some, but I'm particularly sensitive to treble and will give up some transients/detailing in exchange for less fatigue
5) fuzzor - maybe a tiny tiny change in the midrange, but I'm into placebo range since the felt probably does more than the fuzzors in my case
6) hardwired - because I'm boss like that, and it looks good
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Yes to the bold..
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Feb 22, 2014 at 12:50 PM Post #12,102 of 21,868
The nit I have with the mods are what yours is. The openness is a positive (to my tastes) but I'm trying to decide if I am just conditioned to the original enclosure sound or if this has a nit. Jury and musical variety is under review. At first, I thought it took some meat out of the lows. Then I got used to the accuracy of the bass and find it less fatiguing. The highs sound more natural and without a shimmer. I can listen to the sound for hours and not feel fatigued like I have in the past. I think that's a good thing. I also get the satisfaction of turning it up when wanted and get that last drop of magic the material provide

The felt is what I did. I use the term "fuzzor" because that's in the title of the mod thread.

Armaegis, did you try putting the quarter foam back in position to see if there was any soundstage changes? I'm curious about that.
 
Feb 22, 2014 at 12:54 PM Post #12,103 of 21,868
It is hard to compose the changes and be accurate unless you had two pairs one done and one stock. I got to hear a modded hd800. And although it sounded ok it quickly become a little muddy. And when I put the stock ones on it was very apparent I did not like it.
Al
 
Feb 22, 2014 at 1:00 PM Post #12,104 of 21,868
alrainbow said:
It is hard to compose the changes and be accurate unless you had two pairs one done and one stock. I got to hear a modded hd800. And although it sounded ok it quickly become a little muddy. And when I put the stock ones on it was very apparent I did not like it.
Al
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And this is why I'm taking mine to Darryl's for a comparison.
 
Feb 22, 2014 at 1:02 PM Post #12,105 of 21,868
That is good. I am lucky that I have become friendly with a fellow headfier. He had the he6 and hd800. And he is the guy with the stratus as well. Good luck and I look forward to,you posting the results .

Al
 
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