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Multi-IEM Review - 352 IEMs compared (Pump Audio Earphones added 04/03/16 p. 1106)
Jul 13, 2010 at 1:00 AM Post #391 of 16,931
I've always found the existence of the FXC80s to be both interesting and slightly confusing.  As far as I know, these aren't available in Japan, though that market recently saw the release of the FXC51 and FXC71, the true successors to the FXC50 and 70, respectively.  I'm not exactly sure what JVC is planning to do for this market as the FXC80, despite being marketed as part of the "Black Series," has always been viewed by many (and confirmed by your review) to be an upgrade to the FXC50.  The fact that the FXC50 is readily available here in the US for $20 or less (to clean out inventory perhaps?) makes me wonder if JVC will release the FXC51 and 71 here, or if they'll just let the FX67, which I assume is sold at a higher profit margin, take over their budget line.
 
Jul 13, 2010 at 3:43 PM Post #392 of 16,931
Lol joker.  I thought something like the RE0 would be violet.  I chose the HA FXC80 because you mentioned strong and full bass so I thought it would be somewhere in between.  Oh well, we'll see what its like going from Metrofi220 and Denon ahd1001 (CAL!) to these sparkly phones.
 
Jul 13, 2010 at 5:16 PM Post #394 of 16,931
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kjk1281 said:
I've always found the existence of the FXC80s to be both interesting and slightly confusing.  As far as I know, these aren't available in Japan, though that market recently saw the release of the FXC51 and FXC71, the true successors to the FXC50 and 70, respectively.  I'm not exactly sure what JVC is planning to do for this market as the FXC80, despite being marketed as part of the "Black Series," has always been viewed by many (and confirmed by your review) to be an upgrade to the FXC50.  The fact that the FXC50 is readily available here in the US for $20 or less (to clean out inventory perhaps?) makes me wonder if JVC will release the FXC51 and 71 here, or if they'll just let the FX67, which I assume is sold at a higher profit margin, take over their budget line.
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I don't believe the FXC50 ever became as popular as the FX33/34/66 here despite being the superior earphone in terms of SQ. The very high defect rate may have had something to do with it - out of the four FXC50s that I've owned two were dead out of the box (on one side). The FXC80 seems far more robust. I would certainly not mind trying an FXC71 myself. I never liked the fit of the FXC50s but the FXC71 is angled somewhat and might work better. 

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xtasi said:
Lol joker.  I thought something like the RE0 would be violet.  I chose the HA FXC80 because you mentioned strong and full bass so I thought it would be somewhere in between.  Oh well, we'll see what its like going from Metrofi220 and Denon ahd1001 (CAL!) to these sparkly phones.
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The RE0 would also be violet depending on what aspects you are looking at specifically. But the RE0 is not nearly as bright as the FXC80 is. Who knows - maybe you're a treblehead after all. 

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Okay, I am waiting for that DBA-02 review, I think (meaning: I am already on board as a DBA fanboy, so even a crushing negative review would not sway me).
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No chance of a crushing negative review. These things are too good. The plan is to have it up some time next week along with three other dual-driver earphones. 
 
Jul 13, 2010 at 5:22 PM Post #395 of 16,931
@slaters70: what if a bunch of people review them and say negative things about them? :p Although I doubt that is happening anytime soon unless they came from bass heavy, don't like neutrality or had no idea what they were buying..
 
I await for your review to come out :) Four dual driver iem's sounds like you got your work cut out for you. Good thing you are getting well paid for all this work :p
 
Jul 13, 2010 at 5:35 PM Post #396 of 16,931
Joker, have you heard the Klipsch X5?  Finally got to hear them, they were on my short list a long time ago.  They aren't perfect but they are clear, detailed and balanced.  The biggest shock for me was the level of isolation equals my experience w/ ER4s and they are incredibly comfortable at the same time!  For $140 I think I'm gonna have to keep them just for flying.
 
Jul 13, 2010 at 9:56 PM Post #397 of 16,931
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rawrster said:
 
I await for your review to come out :) Four dual driver iem's sounds like you got your work cut out for you. Good thing you are getting well paid for all this work :p
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Yeah, lucky me... 


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anaxilus said:
Joker, have you heard the Klipsch X5?  Finally got to hear them, they were on my short list a long time ago.  They aren't perfect but they are clear, detailed and balanced.  The biggest shock for me was the level of isolation equals my experience w/ ER4s and they are incredibly comfortable at the same time!  For $140 I think I'm gonna have to keep them just for flying.
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Nope, the higher-end Klipsch dynamics sort of passed me by, although I did try to get a set of the X10s in that UltimateElectronics rush a while back. I can believe about them being comfortable since they're supposed to be even smaller than the S2/X1. 
 
I might end up trying one of the X-series IEMs eventually if Klipsch doesn't come out with whatever is meant to replace the Custom line.
 
Jul 14, 2010 at 12:49 PM Post #398 of 16,931
Hi!
 
Well still the same question here.
Do you guys think I'll learn to listen to IEM if I insist? I ask because the feeling of being closed makes listening to my opened headphones much more pleasing.
 
Jul 14, 2010 at 4:06 PM Post #399 of 16,931
The answer is probably yes but perhaps you should actively seek an open-sounding IEM and not one that is notorious for causing ear pressure build-up. Maybe even something with a 'half in-ear' design like the Phiaton or Audio-Technica dynamics.
 
Jul 14, 2010 at 4:13 PM Post #400 of 16,931
well now they are comfortable for me. I just had my ear to adapt.
The problem now is only the closed feeling.
I mean I like them and don't feel like selling them.
then I will look into the half in ear.
Does the Radius DDM enter in these half in ear?
Can you list some them, so I can search a bit about?
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ljokerl said:
The answer is probably yes but perhaps you should actively seek an open-sounding IEM and not one that is notorious for causing ear pressure build-up. Maybe even something with a 'half in-ear' design like the Phiaton or Audio-Technica dynamics.
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Jul 15, 2010 at 6:31 PM Post #401 of 16,931
Added Denon AH-C710 and Fischer Audio Toughstuff TS-9002.
 
 
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mcnoiserdc said:
well now they are comfortable for me. I just had my ear to adapt.
The problem now is only the closed feeling.
I mean I like them and don't feel like selling them.
then I will look into the half in ear.
Does the Radius DDM enter in these half in ear?
Can you list some them, so I can search a bit about?
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I wouldn't say the DDM sounds particularly open and it can be pretty tough too fit unless you're very comfortable with IEMs in general. I was thinking something along the lines of the Phiaton PS210 / ATH-CKS70/90 and Yamaha EPH-50. I'm sure there are others but these come to mind first. I only have the Yamahas and they really don't feel like IEMs at all - more like earbuds with a nozzle. 
 
Jul 15, 2010 at 7:14 PM Post #402 of 16,931
That TS-9002 looks quite interesting, and sports an uncanny resemblance to the Marantz HP101.  Thanks for introducing us to what seems like yet another great phone from Fischer.
 
As for Denon: I've always thought that they charged a bit much for what they were selling, at least when it came to their canalphone line.  At least they're not ripping us off royally like they do to Europeans.
That said, I'm still interested in a true flagship IEM from Denon (C910/960?) if it ever surfaces.
 
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ljokerl said:
I don't believe the FXC50 ever became as popular as the FX33/34/66 here despite being the superior earphone in terms of SQ. The very high defect rate may have had something to do with it - out of the four FXC50s that I've owned two were dead out of the box (on one side). The FXC80 seems far more robust. I would certainly not mind trying an FXC71 myself. I never liked the fit of the FXC50s but the FXC71 is angled somewhat and might work better. 
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Sorry to hear about your troubles with the FXC50.  You're probably right about the sub-par build quality preventing it from becoming more mainstream.  Glad to see that the FXC80 is better in this regard, and hopefully these issues were addressed with the newer FXC51/71.
 
Jul 15, 2010 at 7:46 PM Post #403 of 16,931
That Fischer Audio phone definitely has an interesting name :) toughstuff but no strain reliefs :p They are quickly becoming a company know for good values which is always a nice change.
 
 
Jul 15, 2010 at 7:52 PM Post #404 of 16,931
The Marantz HP101 would certainly be an earphone you should review. Been around for a while tbh, but still rather unknown. I can easily buy it here but go other commitments money wise I've afraid lols.
 
Jul 16, 2010 at 12:05 AM Post #405 of 16,931
Small note: The Denon C700 benefited going to a bi-flange tip.  I might suggest you try that out with the C710 as well.  It helps get rid of the midbass and treble bumps and flattens out the response.  A foam tip can help with this too.  The small single flange tip just isn't a good choice for the C700 and it may not be for the C710 either.
 
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