Once you improve the things that need it there's no fiddling to them...Set the volume on the Amp at a level that is slightly above what the max you would normally
use and then control volume further with whatever device you are using...In my case the computer...Sound is great...Way better than just plugging headphones directly into
my FIIO E10 DAC (I use the FIIO E10 to pass audio from the computer to another FIIO Fiber converter DAC at the TV...I use the COAX OUT from the E10
to the COAX IN of the FIIO fiber converter at the TV. The FIIO fiber converter has a switch on it so I can switch between the Coax Digital signal coming from
my computer to the Optical output coming from my TV then it goes from the Fiber Converter to the P-1 Tube amp via RCA output.
Works great. Using Audio Technica WS-99 headphones...VERY nice sound and like I said a lot better sound than just
plugging directly into the E10 DAC directly at the computer. I like mine so much after I upgraded the power supply and tube that I will buy another should it fail in the future.

davei1 said:

  Once you improve the things that need it there's no fiddling to them...Set the volume on the Amp at a level that is slightly above what the max you would normally
use and then control volume further with whatever device you are using...In my case the computer...Sound is great...Way better than just plugging headphones directly into
my FIIO E10 DAC (I use the FIIO E10 to pass audio from the computer to another FIIO Fiber converter DAC at the TV...I use the COAX OUT from the E10
to the COAX IN of the FIIO fiber converter at the TV. The FIIO fiber converter has a switch on it so I can switch between the Coax Digital signal coming from
my computer to the Optical output coming from my TV then it goes from the Fiber Converter to the P-1 Tube amp via RCA output.
Works great. Using Audio Technica WS-99 headphones...VERY nice sound and like I said a lot better sound than just
plugging directly into the E10 DAC directly at the computer. I like mine so much after I upgraded the power supply and tube that I will buy another should it fail in the future.

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That's neat. I only have one source, a CD player to an M-DAC, which is great to control as it has a remote with which I can even alter the channel balance from my armchair!
I think the M-DAC should suit the Garages as it gives out a clear, clean sound.
Problem for me with the Garages is the extra $100 import duty and taxes. I wish they could be bought from Europe as well as the States.

money4me247 said:

  @UmustBKidn, hahah. mmm well, the garage1217 amps share a lot of design clues, so that's why they get brought up. obviously, the garage1217 tube amps are pricier, more high-end gear compared to bravo's entry-level budget amps. from what i've read though ...

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Well, there you have it. You've only read about the garage amps, yet here you are throwing them in my face, in the Bravo thread. That's what I'm tired of. There used to be a guy reading this thread that would reply to every post and say "Oh but if you just go over here and try this amp, its soooo much better" blah blah blah. The guy who ran the company even had the nerve to come in here one day and start slamming the Bravo amps.
 
Phooey.
 
This website is FILLED with amps that are better than the Bravo's. I honestly don't care how good anyone thinks they are (since you don't actually know how good they are, you are just one more guy speculating). What I care about is that you're not using this thread to discuss the Bravo amps. Please, find a thread for one of the other 99% of the amps on this website and discuss them in that thread. Don't come in here to discuss them, and don't keep telling people how good they are, because all you're doing is advertising for them. I will never, ever buy one of those amps, because they are simply not worth it, and I'm just that sick of hearing about them.
 
There are plenty of other threads to discuss the plethora of other, "better" amps. Please, go there, and discuss them, and leave us Bravo owners to our chosen gear. Thank you.

lol @UmustBKidn, you need to seriously chill out. you're getting offended when no offense is intended.
 
i've never bashed the bravo tube amp or said they were inferior to anything else. i think they are a great steal for their value. i'm not affiliated w/ anyone or advertising anything. just saw a cool tube amp that performs well & thought i would share it. there are people here who are interested in trying new things lol. i would hope other bravo owners don't feel like the mention of any other equipment is a crime (esp when no criticism or comparisons where made) lol
 
dude, this is supposed to be a fun hobby & great community. no need to get so testy.

money4me247 said:

  lol @UmustBKidn, you need to seriously chill out. you're getting offended when no offense is intended.
 
i've never bashed the bravo tube amp or said they were inferior to anything else. i think they are a great steal for their value. i'm not affiliated w/ anyone or advertising anything. just saw a cool tube amp that performs well & thought i would share it. there are people here who are interested in trying new things lol. i would hope other bravo owners don't feel like the mention of any other equipment is a crime (esp when no criticism or comparisons where made) lol
 
dude, this is supposed to be a fun hobby & great community. no need to get so testy.

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Perhaps it seems that way. I'm not sure how long you've been reading this thread, but I've been on it for a while. The bravo-bashing got to be almost daily some months ago, and I got tired of it. Sorry, but I'm still tired of it.
 
The whole sales pitch of the garage amps is based upon bashing gear like little bear and bravo amps. And that quite frankly is their sales pitch: its a tube amp just like X and Y that performs better than X and Y. I wish I had a dime for every time I've heard that line in this thread. You just did it again. It's really not necessary for you to direct other people to their gear or their website in this thread, because it's been done before. Excessively, in my opinion. Yes, there is other gear. Yes, there is better gear. But this is the Bravo thread. Advertising new gear belongs in another forum. Not this one.
 
A couple excerpts from the Forum rules and Posting Guidelines may be useful to understand why I feel the way I do...
 
- We ask that you please make a concerted effort to post in the appropriate forums.
 
- Curb any urge you may have to flippantly dismiss someone's opinion.
 
- Please don't recommend equipment you don't own or otherwise don't have a reasonable amount of familiarity with.
 
- Likewise, please avoid trashing equipment you haven't used or aren't familiar with.
 
- A Member of the Trade may not post negative comments about products/services of competitors.
 
- A Member of the Trade may not post announcements, advertisements, sales information or the like about a product he makes or sells in the Main Forums, or via Private Messaging, unless pre-approved by the site's administrators.
 
- Shilling, which is posting about products one is affiliated with under the guise/profile of a non-affiliated person, is extremely frowned upon by the moderators and admins of Head-Fi, and may result in a permanent ban from Head-Fi.
 
So while it seems like I'm being a little testy, to use your word, I'm just trying to obey the rules, and stick to the topic of this thread. Peace.

 

 

 

 

umustbkidn said:

  A couple excerpts from the Forum rules and Posting Guidelines may be useful to understand why I feel the way I do...
 
- We ask that you please make a concerted effort to post in the appropriate forums.
- Curb any urge you may have to flippantly dismiss someone's opinion.
- Please don't recommend equipment you don't own or otherwise don't have a reasonable amount of familiarity with.
- Likewise, please avoid trashing equipment you haven't used or aren't familiar with.
- A Member of the Trade may not post negative comments about products/services of competitors.
- A Member of the Trade may not post announcements, advertisements, sales information or the like about a product he makes or sells in the Main Forums, or via Private Messaging, unless pre-approved by the site's administrators.
- Shilling, which is posting about products one is affiliated with under the guise/profile of a non-affiliated person, is extremely frowned upon by the moderators and admins of Head-Fi, and may result in a permanent ban from Head-Fi.
 
So while it seems like I'm being a little testy, to use your word, I'm just trying to obey the rules, and stick to the topic of this thread. Peace.

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lol. 'a little testy' was putting it kindly.
 
I'm not affiliated with anyone or a member of the trade & my post about the other tube amp was in response to someone else's post. I do own a Bravo V3 tube amp and I haven't posted anything negative about it at all. I didn't really post anything advertisy about the other amp except that I personally thought it looked cool like the bravo amp. Just because you got annoyed at some other people's posts that offended you, doesn't mean you should be misdirecting your anger at me. I wasn't even talking to you and I am definitely not interested in arguing w/ you.
 
Everything I've written here has been very respectful and nice, but if you think I'm breaking any rules, by all means flag the post or whatever. I am not interested in hearing the opinions of some random guy butting in my conversations and attacking me for things I totally did not do.
 
edit: And yes, I am glad you got the chance to reread the rules of the forums.

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Note: On the Bravo V3, the white & red RCA inputs are miscolored / swapped! The white input is actually the right channel and the red input is for the left.

money4me247 said:

Note: On the Bravo V3, the white & red RCA inputs are miscolored / swapped! The white input is actually the right channel and the red input is for the left.

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I noticed this the other day.. Odd!

white lotus said:

I noticed this the other day.. Odd!

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Yes, several leads I've recently bought which have originated from the Far East have the conventional channel colours reversed. I think it's a Chinese thing- they don't follow Western convention in this respect but even in the UK some lead manufacturers are reversing the colours too.

money4me247 said:

  from what i've read though

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Just to let you know, "from what I've read" is not as good as "in my experience". It's fair enough to say that you're interested in buying an amp because of the favourable impressions, but going only by what you've read to discuss the merits or detriments of a product is like kids discussing whether a Ferrari or Lambo is faster. I think people would rather read actual impressions here, since people are intending to spend their money on these things. 

. Money4me has been enjoying his Bravo v3, so what if he's come to know this thread as his current home (cuz of his current gear) and is considering his next steps, that doesn't take away from the fact that he liked the bravo. No conflict against the Bravo amps in that.

evshrug said:

. Money4me has been enjoying his Bravo v3, so what if he's come to know this thread as his current home (cuz of his current gear) and is considering his next steps, that doesn't take away from the fact that he liked the bravo. No conflict against the Bravo amps in that.

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hahaah word!!! that's exactly how i feel. I really love my bravo v3 & i wld be content staying on my current gear set. i def highly recommend bravo amps for someone looking to try tubes. of course, with this kinda hobby, you are always kinda itching to try something new, so it's always nice to hear other bravo owners' opinion on other equipment. i really feel comfortable in this thread too b/c i feel like people interested in this kind of inexpensive non-fancy-brand-name equipment are just looking for good valueerformance, so I would really trust advice/impressions of everyone else here as we have similar equipment background =)
 
<3 head-fi community

money4me247 said:

I feel like people interested in this kind of inexpensive, non-fancy-brand-name equipment are just looking for good valueerformance...

<3 head-fi community

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Sounds like you understand where UmustBKidn is coming from too... Sometimes, in the dark of winter, it's hard to unwind, look at things without coloring them from recent experiences, and especially online understand the intent behind someone's words.

I intended to get a Bravo or Indeed for a long time, and learn how to solder for myself to install the different mods people have done with this amp. Instead, I bought a hybrid that had been upgraded for me. If I didn't have the higher budget, I would've bought an Indeed G3 like I originally planned when I found this thread.

Exactly! I also love my Bravo 3 though it's nice to learn about other tube amps but comparisons should always be A/B, in real life.
I have tried so many different tubes that I fear that some time soon the socket will break and I will then need to buy another Bravo as I believe it's generally not easy to change the socket.