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Musical Fidelity xcan v8
Sep 24, 2008 at 12:41 AM Post #301 of 421
i just got this amp and am listening to it with my w5000. it is a good amp, and i really like it. i am using the internal dac, and have no plans to upgrade.

honestly, the upgrade from sansa clip to this amp was not worth $500, but i have money to blow so whatever.
 
Sep 24, 2008 at 2:07 AM Post #302 of 421
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Originally Posted by shasty /img/forum/go_quote.gif
i just got this amp and am listening to it with my w5000. it is a good amp, and i really like it. i am using the internal dac, and have no plans to upgrade.

honestly, the upgrade from sansa clip to this amp was not worth $500, but i have money to blow so whatever.


The benefits of the v8 are only realized with very low impedance phones - it totally transforms the D2000/D5000s, and is great with Grados as well. Not so great with higher impedance phones.
 
Sep 24, 2008 at 2:31 PM Post #303 of 421
No one noticed my last post, so I'm posting it again!

It seems like I'm buying this one after all.

I live in Sweden. Where is the best place to buy it? I can't buy it from US, right? Where else would it be cheap to buy it?

Thank you for your help everyone!

EDIT: I Probably should ask one more question after all. I'm going to buy a pair of Denon AH-D2000. How big will the difference be if I'm using this amp with the DAC, or not using any amp at all? From a PC with a quite cheap sound card.
 
Sep 24, 2008 at 3:28 PM Post #304 of 421
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Originally Posted by Gradofan2 /img/forum/go_quote.gif
The benefits of the v8 are only realized with very low impedance phones - it totally transforms the D2000/D5000s, and is great with Grados as well. Not so great with higher impedance phones.


I actually sold my Denon D5000 and only use Senn 650 & 600 with Xcan v8, each person has thier own taste/opinion.......

My Senns have upgraded cables and foam pads replaced with sheer cloths
 
Sep 24, 2008 at 5:05 PM Post #305 of 421
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Originally Posted by Bigmouth /img/forum/go_quote.gif
No one noticed my last post, so I'm posting it again!

It seems like I'm buying this one after all.

I live in Sweden. Where is the best place to buy it? I can't buy it from US, right? Where else would it be cheap to buy it?

Thank you for your help everyone!

EDIT: I Probably should ask one more question after all. I'm going to buy a pair of Denon AH-D2000. How big will the difference be if I'm using this amp with the DAC, or not using any amp at all? From a PC with a quite cheap sound card.


I can not help you with a cheap place to buy the xcan, but maybe a german reseller.....

I would get the phones first and see if the laptop is satisfying for you, if it is you do not need an amp..

I bougth mine at "tapeconnection" in Denmark for about 800$, a cheaper alternative is a Zero that also is a nice amp, allthough not in the same leage as the V8
 
Sep 24, 2008 at 5:41 PM Post #306 of 421
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Originally Posted by Bigmouth /img/forum/go_quote.gif
No one noticed my last post, so I'm posting it again!

It seems like I'm buying this one after all.

I live in Sweden. Where is the best place to buy it? I can't buy it from US, right? Where else would it be cheap to buy it?

Thank you for your help everyone!

EDIT: I Probably should ask one more question after all. I'm going to buy a pair of Denon AH-D2000. How big will the difference be if I'm using this amp with the DAC, or not using any amp at all? From a PC with a quite cheap sound card.


Google is your friend lazy svensson :p - Reference audio - hemmabio projektorer dvd hifi

Musical Fidelity XCanV8 - HiFi och Hemmabio i Stockholm - Ljudmakarn
 
Sep 24, 2008 at 8:46 PM Post #307 of 421
w5000 has lower impedance than d2000
 
Sep 24, 2008 at 9:18 PM Post #308 of 421
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w5000 has lower impedance than d2000


Actually they don't.

The impedance of the W5000 is 40 ohms... and... the impedance of the D2000/D5000s is 25 ohms. The ATHs don't seem to be as hard to drive as Denons for sure... or Grados - possibly because they're more sensitive and efficient.
 
Sep 24, 2008 at 10:07 PM Post #309 of 421
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Originally Posted by DarkAngel /img/forum/go_quote.gif
I actually sold my Denon D5000 and only use Senn 650 & 600 with Xcan v8, each person has thier own taste/opinion.......

My Senns have upgraded cables and foam pads replaced with sheer cloths


I sold my Denon's as well (markled D2000) and currently enjoying the X-Can with a ALO K701. Also got a Beyer DT-880 (600ohm) which the x-can can (hah) drive but at ~1-3 o'clock on the volume, using the internal DAC.
 
Sep 27, 2008 at 4:36 PM Post #311 of 421
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Originally Posted by Gradofan2 /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Actually they don't.

The impedance of the W5000 is 40 ohms... and... the impedance of the D2000/D5000s is 25 ohms. The ATHs don't seem to be as hard to drive as Denons for sure... or Grados - possibly because they're more sensitive and efficient.


now i'm really confused!

w5000 has 40 ohms, and 103 db/mw

d2000 has 25 ohms, and 106 db/mw

the w5000 is definitely much louder than the d2000 at a given volume setting, and i agree that the xcan really helps the denons out, but i think it has less to do with impedance and more to do with the tubes warming up the cold analytical sound of the denons
 
Sep 27, 2008 at 6:28 PM Post #313 of 421
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Originally Posted by shasty /img/forum/go_quote.gif
now i'm really confused!

w5000 has 40 ohms, and 103 db/mw

d2000 has 25 ohms, and 106 db/mw

the w5000 is definitely much louder than the d2000 at a given volume setting, and i agree that the xcan really helps the denons out, but i think it has less to do with impedance and more to do with the tubes warming up the cold analytical sound of the denons


Actually... if you listen to the Denons with other amps, with higher output impedance, and less current output than the v8 (more typical of OTL tube amps)... you'll hear a big difference - they're not as clean and clear sounding, and the bass gets bloated, boomy and wooly.
 
Sep 30, 2008 at 11:24 AM Post #314 of 421
A question for those of you that actually like this amp!
how long time does it need to warm up?

I heard the v3 on two occasions: first time it had been on all day and i loved it, the second it had been on for only ten minutes and it made me want to tear my headphones off right away!

I don´t know about the v8, but the fact that it stil dosn´t have an on/off knob seems to indicate they want it to be turned on at all times - Just don´t fit with the CO2 issue so much debated these days.

So therefore the question: how long time does it need to warm up to sound pleasent?
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Sep 30, 2008 at 6:55 PM Post #315 of 421
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Originally Posted by Kasper /img/forum/go_quote.gif
I don´t know about the v8, but the fact that it stil dosn´t have an on/off knob seems to indicate they want it to be turned on at all times - Just don´t fit with the CO2 issue so much debated these days.


The CO2 issue? Aren't the v8 just like the v3 a one-watt design... but all right, waste is waste...
 
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