Anyone seen this? Shunyata DIY <100$ Power Conditoner
Feb 11, 2006 at 10:32 AM Post #46 of 52
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There is another angle to high end audio. Many people feel they must spend a lot of money for good sound, and the more they spend, they better it must sound. I have seen many manufacturers offer their new product at reasonable, low prices. Sales are very slow. Then they raise the price 2 to 5 times the original price. Sales take off like a rocket. Go figure.


I don't see how the T-amp's sales could ever have taken off had it costed $100 instead of $25.
 
Feb 11, 2006 at 2:06 PM Post #47 of 52
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Originally Posted by Tachikoma
I don't see how the T-amp's sales could ever have taken off had it costed $100 instead of $25.


The T-amp is not high end audio, at least pricewise. At $25, for many people (audiophile or not) it's well below the threshhold for impulse purchase. Choosing between a $400 and $800 power conditioner is something else entirely
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Feb 11, 2006 at 5:35 PM Post #49 of 52
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The "shocking" thing for some people is that the Shunyata units are the same as the cheapest units from Monster and other commercial competitors,


Once again, who says they are the *same*??? Yeah, they may both be power conditioners, but it's like arguing that the HD650 is over-priced, when after all I got headphones with my iPod for FREE!!!
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Apples and oranges.
 
Feb 11, 2006 at 8:40 PM Post #50 of 52
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Originally Posted by markl
Once again, who says they are the *same*??? Yeah, they may both be power conditioners, but it's like arguing that the HD650 is over-priced, when after all I got headphones with my iPod for FREE!!!
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Apples and oranges.


People are saying they're the same because the internal construction (two capacitors and a varistor for surge protection -- the basic ingredients of a power conditioner) is identical. Identical construction is a fairly safe definition of "same."

Of course people will try to justify that the Shunyata outlet is somehow better. Magic quality capacitors. Special cryoed Venom outlets. Special recipe wire. All that may be true. If those things matter to a person, then Shunyata isn't such a bad choice (or DIY, where you can use whatever magic caps, outlets, and wire you prefer). However, do realize that's what you're paying the money for -- the marketing and the magic ingredients -- not the actual circuit. This isn't akin to your Sennheiser versus Apple Earbuds at all, since those are not even close in construction. A better analogy would be the HD580 versus HD600. Even that analogy probably overplays the difference between the Shunyata unit and a cheap power conditioner.

Incidentally, I've noticed Shunyata has stopped selling their "magic dust" product that you were supposed to sprinkle over your gear. What's up with that? Anyone know why they stopped selling it?
 
Feb 11, 2006 at 9:04 PM Post #51 of 52
Did I miss the link with pics that show the Monsters are the same as the Shunyata? Which model are we talking about? If you go to your local Best Buy and look inside the glass top of the Monster units, you can see they look nothing like the Shunyata. In fact, there's a lot more "stuff" in them than the Shunyata, at lower prices in many cases.
 
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