Thinking about picking up the Eastsound CD-E5
Nov 21, 2005 at 9:25 PM Post #1,096 of 1,228
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Originally Posted by maf_au
Would it make you happier if everyone who has bought an E5 and HASN'T had any problem speaks up on this thread?


Well it would certainly be interesting to have such data. Actually what would be best is a poll answered yea or nay (honestly) by all E5 owners. Blyth assuarances that there is no problem and figures seemingly plucked out of thin air are no substitute for empirical data which can be used to support such a hypothesis.

I am happy that your player is working fine and I am sure that *most* are similarly unproblematic. To say there is no reliability issue is incorrect, one might argue that it is minor issue or a small risk, that is not quite the same thing. A 1% probability that a drug you take would cause you to grow a second head would still be serious
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Nov 21, 2005 at 9:46 PM Post #1,097 of 1,228
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Originally Posted by hciman77
buying a costly product that dies is the problem


This player is a steal at the price they are selling them for and the performance you get for it... I was very uncertain when I imported my player from China because nothing was known of Cattylink or Eastsound at the time, but it is really a no brainer now I would say.


I am not saying that the E5 is not a bargain for what it offers, but from where I stand $750 is still a lot of money, but then again I am just a poor student
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Nov 21, 2005 at 9:52 PM Post #1,098 of 1,228
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Originally Posted by hciman77
Well it would certainly be interesting to have such data. Actually what would be best is a poll answered yea or nay (honestly) by all E5 owners. Blyth assuarances that there is no problem and figures seemingly plucked out of thin air are no substitute for empirical data which can be used to support such a hypothesis.

I am happy that your player is working fine and I am sure that *most* are similarly unproblematic. To say there is no reliability issue is incorrect, one might argue that it is minor issue or a small risk, that is not quite the same thing. A 1% probability that a drug you take would cause you to grow a second head would still be serious
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Do a poll ..... I think that would be interesting.
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Nov 21, 2005 at 10:18 PM Post #1,099 of 1,228
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Originally Posted by hciman77
Blyth assuarances that there is no problem and figures seemingly plucked out of thin air are no substitute for empirical data which can be used to support such a hypothesis.

To say there is no reliability issue is incorrect, one might argue that it is minor issue or a small risk, that is not quite the same thing. A 1% probability that a drug you take would cause you to grow a second head would still be serious
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Figures plucked out of mid-air are what you are using, in your ill-tempered poosts. As Philodox points out, these forums are a vacuum cleaner for problems, and so would render any poll unscientific and inaccurate.
Anyone exercising due diligence in monitoring this thread, would understand the risks, and REWARDS involved in acquiring this CDP. Ferment those sour grapes somewhere else, if the risks outweigh your wallet!
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Nov 21, 2005 at 10:22 PM Post #1,100 of 1,228
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Originally Posted by raisin
Figures plucked out of mid-air are what you are using, in your ill-tempered poosts. As Philodox points out, these forums are a vacuum cleaner for problems, and so would render any poll unscientific and inaccurate.
Anyone exercising due diligence in monitoring this thread, would understand the risks, and REWARDS involved in acquiring this CDP. Ferment those sour grapes somewhere else, if the risks outweigh your wallet!
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I think YOU are missing the big picture here.

/JF
 
Nov 21, 2005 at 11:26 PM Post #1,102 of 1,228
hi
regarding fragile transports on the e5,i dont think you can put it down to rough handling getting to you,mine survived that jorney ok,then 3weeks on it died.
but can i share this....the e5 is the cheapest front end product i have ever owned thro the years,for the money it is so much more then the sum of its parts both in build and sound quality and thats coming from one thats not convinced that the e5 is for them,ive had so much expensive stuff it scares me to count the total cost and nearly every one of them develped some problem or fault while i had them.
the worst one was a sony sacd777es,transport packed up after a yr,cost to repair would of been £500 as it was just out of warrenty and sony was intrested,had to threaten them with court action before they took notice....pointed out i accept a yr is fair enough on a £50 quid product,but i expect a little bit more on sonys flagship models that cost nearly £2000.
i guess what im saying is nothing is 100% reliable,what counts is the service you get if/when a problem arises and on this score snowy/cattylink cant be faulted and that kind of service is priceless and oh so rare these days.....
so to those thinking on it...it really isnt a issue,the worst case is its down for a couple of weeks till its repaired(my sony was 1 month,musical fidelity? dont even get me started on them!)
just telling it how i see it
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Nov 22, 2005 at 12:00 AM Post #1,103 of 1,228
Nov 22, 2005 at 1:13 AM Post #1,104 of 1,228
lol @ the road runner reference.
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I poll would be cool, but as I said there are most likely quite a few people out there that have purchased and are enjoying the CD-E5 and have either not found their way to this thread or have not posted in it. But EVERY person that has a problem with their CD-E5 will find this thread. Try googling for info on this player... you will eventually arrive here.
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Nov 22, 2005 at 3:38 AM Post #1,105 of 1,228
I've had my E5 for 15 months now with not a hicup. It even plays some discs my Tosh 3960 and Cambridge Audio unit refuse to play.

The E5 is extremely well built and I really don't believe the "realiabilty issue" is with the E5 itself. We're talking about shipping a individual item literally half way around the world. You have to wonder how many individuals who really don't give a damn handle the package.

Mine shipped with a large order to Sekei packaged on wood pallets. I know Andy (Sekei) has been in business for several years now and the failure rate for Chinese audio has been very low.

If the 1% failure rate is accurate. That IMO dosen't seem bad, especially when you consider what the E5 goes thru to reach North America. We're not talking about a Pacemaker or Air Craft engine its a CDP.

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Nov 22, 2005 at 4:09 AM Post #1,106 of 1,228
I would have bought it at $750 even if you had to buy and install your own transport. It is that good.
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Nov 22, 2005 at 7:35 AM Post #1,107 of 1,228
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Originally Posted by chillysalsa
It look like this Acme place has VAM 1202 transports for about $20. It must be a trusted place if The Road Runner gets all his anvils and dynamite there.

http://www.acme-sales.net/acmecart/h...in/portal.html

(Click on the left bar "Optical Pickups > Philips")



Art: Thanks for your link - here is the sensitive part, in the link you gave, that can go bad at times (normal life is seven years though):

ACME-3167 (VAM 1202) Optical pickup
Replacement for VAM 1202
Ninety day warranty
1-4 $21.95 each

To replace this laser unit, you must first remove the tranport, then remove the laser from the transport and put a new one in - harder than just replacing the whole transport with its laser inside. The transport itself doesn't usually fail - it has a long lasting and reliable tray motor that could go bad and need replacement - haven't ever seen a failure here. Mike Fl provided transport repair pics (on an earlier link on this thread).
 
Nov 25, 2005 at 11:20 AM Post #1,108 of 1,228
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Originally Posted by philodox
......poll would be cool, but as I said there are most likely quite a few people out there that have purchased and are enjoying the CD-E5 and have either not found their way to this thread or have not posted in it. But EVERY person that has a problem with their CD-E5 will find this thread.


Art: Excellent prediction - no way the poll is accurate - weighted heavily towards readers/responders who have had problems - those with no problems will not be interested in the poll. In fact, the vast majority of happy E5 owners are likely listening to music and not spending much time on this site.
 
Nov 25, 2005 at 1:01 PM Post #1,109 of 1,228
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Originally Posted by drarthurwells
Art: Excellent prediction - no way the poll is accurate - weighted heavily towards readers/responders who have had problems - those with no problems will not be interested in the poll. In fact, the vast majority of happy E5 owners are likely listening to music and not spending much time on this site.


I agree, the poll serves no real purpose. I personally don't think there is anything wrong with the E5, and all the problems reported here are to be expected when you have something as fragile as a cd player (even if it's a bumper denting one) delivered from the other end of the world.

I just think that there should be a pointer to the transport issue on the first page - as it does seem to pop up occasionally,

plur,

/JF
 
Nov 26, 2005 at 1:33 AM Post #1,110 of 1,228
I'd just like to know if those who have experienced transport problems ever noticed other strange behavior of the CDP prior to the transport failure. I had noticed that the transport door on mine would sometimes move very slightly when powering up the CDP. This stopped right after the transport change and started happening again recently. No disc reading problems so far though. This happens about 1 out of 3 times I press the power button on the E5. This may or may not have anything to do with the transport failure. It's just unusual and abnormal IMO.
 

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