[ohcrapgorillas]

do you think the cth brings the mids closer to the hd650?

No, farther away if anything. More open and clear, whereas the HD650 is thick and smooth. That thick and smooth tonality is unique to the 650, at least at this price range. That said, I think the mids are the Classics main selling point and are, in my experience, unmatched at this price. Warm and also clear/clean at the same time. Just not 650-like 'warmth'.

 

[AudioNewt9]

No, farther away if anything. More open and clear, whereas the HD650 is thick and smooth. That thick and smooth tonality is unique to the 650, at least at this price range. That said, I think the mids are the Classics main selling point and are, in my experience, unmatched at this price. Warm and also clear/clean at the same time. Just not 650-like 'warmth'.

Thanks, one last question, i have an hd569 (like a closed back 598) and i was wondering how these would compare to them. i feel like that there bass is a little weak and the treble is slightly recessed compared to what i like, how would those compare?

 

[ohcrapgorillas]

Thanks, one last question, i have an hd569 (like a closed back 598) and i was wondering how these would compare to them. i feel like that there bass is a little weak and the treble is slightly recessed compared to what i like, how would those compare?

I have only heard the HD598 and that was years ago. But the Classics, for my tastes, outperform the HD600 and 650, so I would think they'd crush a closed back version of the 598. It's not basshead bass but it's strong and powerful and kicks hard with the right amp. And the treble is a blend of being warm and relaxed and non fatiguing while still maintaining clarity and cleanness and extension (although extension is one area where the HD600 have the upper hand).

 

[AudioNewt9]

I have only heard the HD598 and that was years ago. But the Classics, for my tastes, outperform the HD600 and 650, so I would think they'd crush a closed back version of the 598. It's not basshead bass but it's strong and powerful and kicks hard with the right amp. And the treble is a blend of being warm and relaxed and non fatiguing while still maintaining clarity and cleanness and extension (although extension is one area where the HD600 have the upper hand).

wow sounds exactly what i have been looking for!!!

 

[ohcrapgorillas]

wow sounds exactly what i have been looking for!!!

I am pretty biased towards Zach's house sound but I love these headphones, for me they do a lot right and check so many boxes and I'm baffled they aren't more talked about. Most of what I listen to is modern rock, metal, hip hop, prog, folk/americana, and the only thing I would say the HD600 does better is folk since the more realistic tonality matters more and the bass isn't as critical.

 

[Wes S]

I am pretty biased towards Zach's house sound but I love these headphones, for me they do a lot right and check so many boxes and I'm baffled they aren't more talked about. Most of what I listen to is modern rock, metal, hip hop, prog, folk/americana, and the only thing I would say the HD600 does better is folk since the more realistic tonality matters more and the bass isn't as critical.

Owning all 3 of those cans and also being a ZMF fan, you hear it the same way i do. I agree with everything said. This is good info, for those interested. If i would have bought the Classic first, i would have been happy for a long time. They are great headphones and a best buy, for the money, no doubt.

 

[AudioNewt9]

I have done a little more research and have come across the emotive A-100. how does it compare to the mcth?

 

[Natarian]

I have done a little more research and have come across the emotive A-100. how does it compare to the mcth?

I own both. Depends what you are driving. Not hard to drive headphones, go mcth. Hard to drive headphones or planars, they soak in the power and sound great from the emotiva.

 

[AudioNewt9]

I would be using the zmf classic mk3, while they are planar, I've heard that the mcth sounds good with them, and I just wanted to see how they compared

 

[Natarian]

Personally with that headphone I would go a-100 with jumpers installed but I'm sure cth would be great too. Hard to go wrong with good products.

 

[ohcrapgorillas]

The CTH has more than enough power for the Classics

 

[AudioNewt9]

Ok, that was my main issue, but zeos always says he loves the a100 for t50rp mods, so I was wondering about that

 

[ohcrapgorillas]

I listen at 11-1 o'clock. CTH will certainly get them loud enough to destroy your hearing.

 

[Roy Mustang]

I just wanted to drop some praise for these things here. I got them as comfort pair for work, but when they arrived the tore through my collection with a vengeance. Without EQ, to me, they best everything I have. Anyone have experience with these in comparison to any of Zach's dynamic lineup? I would be particularly interested in an Atticus comparison. I feel the urge to throw money at him for the excellent service and products. (probably selling everything that isn't nailed down in the process)

 

[ohcrapgorillas]

I just wanted to drop some praise for these things here. I got them as comfort pair for work, but when they arrived the tore through my collection with a vengeance. Without EQ, to me, they best everything I have. Anyone have experience with these in comparison to any of Zach's dynamic lineup? I would be particularly interested in an Atticus comparison. I feel the urge to throw money at him for the excellent service and products. (probably selling everything that isn't nailed down in the process)

Yeah, for the price these things really are awesome. I am still kinda blown away how easily they best the HD600/650 in most respects.

I have written up some thoughts on the Classic and Atticus a few pages back. I own both. The short of it is that the Atticus are in a different league....microdetails, separation, soundstage and imaging, dynamics, extension, timbre, all are *much* better on the Atticus. Let me know if you have specific questions about the two. I listen to both just about every day (Classic at the office, Atticus at home).