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Headphoneus Supremus
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I find I do much better with women when I'm half asleep.
It's also not the best indicator for potency.
Procreation first, kids.
Unfortunately, that's what happens sometimes. A lot of this was stuff I found out afterward, from people she confided in. Not that there was anything I could have done, but I might have tried something nonetheless. I don't think there was necessarily physical abuse. But you can devastate somebody psychologically, without laying a finger on them. All you have to do is keep moving the goalposts around, yelling at them for the same thing they did nine times before without incident, continually pushing them in one direction, then shifting on a dime; or else just telling them they're worthless whenever you're pissed at them (or at anything else in the world). You can also constantly get in their business and accuse them of hiding things and lying, which tells them you don't trust them. You can dole out punishments that are wholly out of proportion with the offense. You can tell them how disappointed you are with their performance at something, no matter how well they do or how much effort they put into it, which makes them lose self esteem. You can criticize the things they enjoy, the choices they make, the people they befriend. The list goes on and on. All this stuff taken separately might not seem like all that much, but put it all together, and add an element of inconsistency, so you don't even know what you're going to get next, and you've got abuse.
The thing is, I don't think I can let her off entirely scott free. She had a manipulative streak, as evidenced by all the various guys she had hovering around her, of which I was only one. She would play with our affections, roping us in when we started to drift away, then admonishing us when we got too close. Often times I had no idea what I had done wrong to set her off, which mirrors how things were at home for her. She would also move in on other girls' boyfriends, and then act oblivious when said girls got angry. In fact, nothing was ever her fault.
None of this was acceptable behavior. But it was all likely derived from something in her character that was exacerbated by the way she was treated. She should have known better, but really, could she, given her upbringing? At some point, as an adult, you need to learn what's right and what isn't. But that doesn't make it any easier if you've never had proper role models.
She did a lot of things like the story in my first post to me, though that was by far the worst. I could hate her. Quite a few people I know do hate her. But I can't. I just can't. Every time I get to thinking about our relationship--and make no mistake, I pulled some schiit with her, too--I just can't help but feel sorry for her. Wherever she is, I hope she's all right and that she's figured herself out.
Unfortunately, that's what happens sometimes. A lot of this was stuff I found out afterward, from people she confided in. Not that there was anything I could have done, but I might have tried something nonetheless. I don't think there was necessarily physical abuse. But you can devastate somebody psychologically, without laying a finger on them. All you have to do is keep moving the goalposts around, yelling at them for the same thing they did nine times before without incident, continually pushing them in one direction, then shifting on a dime; or else just telling them they're worthless whenever you're pissed at them (or at anything else in the world). You can also constantly get in their business and accuse them of hiding things and lying, which tells them you don't trust them. You can dole out punishments that are wholly out of proportion with the offense. You can tell them how disappointed you are with their performance at something, no matter how well they do or how much effort they put into it, which makes them lose self esteem. You can criticize the things they enjoy, the choices they make, the people they befriend. The list goes on and on. All this stuff taken separately might not seem like all that much, but put it all together, and add an element of inconsistency, so you don't even know what you're going to get next, and you've got abuse.
The thing is, I don't think I can let her off entirely scott free. She had a manipulative streak, as evidenced by all the various guys she had hovering around her, of which I was only one. She would play with our affections, roping us in when we started to drift away, then admonishing us when we got too close. Often times I had no idea what I had done wrong to set her off, which mirrors how things were at home for her. She would also move in on other girls' boyfriends, and then act oblivious when said girls got angry. In fact, nothing was ever her fault.
None of this was acceptable behavior. But it was all likely derived from something in her character that was exacerbated by the way she was treated. She should have known better, but really, could she, given her upbringing? At some point, as an adult, you need to learn what's right and what isn't. But that doesn't make it any easier if you've never had proper role models.
She did a lot of things like the story in my first post to me, though that was by far the worst. I could hate her. Quite a few people I know do hate her. But I can't. I just can't. Every time I get to thinking about our relationship--and make no mistake, I pulled some schiit with her, too--I just can't help but feel sorry for her. Wherever she is, I hope she's all right and that she's figured herself out.
You might want to google "Hostile Dependant" and read a little.
And now that I've said all that, I want to apologize to everybody for taking the thread in such a dark direction, and I want to thank those who responded (some of them not directly in the thread) and had kind words for me. The whole thing was quite the experience, and at the worst time in one's life to have it, but I survived (and learned). I'm still fairly young, so there's lots of time for something good to happen. In the mean time, I'm just concentrating on getting through school, finding employment, and all that good stuff.