[StarlightDawn]

Have you taken the tube amps Zach is selling on his page into consideration?

I have
It's just that there's so many stuff out there, and I don't even know where to start. Since I plan on just sticking with one tube amp for a few years before looking for an upgrade or an alternative.

 

[Empyah]

I have
It's just that there's so many stuff out there, and I don't even know where to start. Since I plan on just sticking with one tube amp for a few years before looking for an upgrade or an alternative.

Woo amps tend to be overpriced for the performance they offer, don't get me wrong they are very well made, beautiful and good sounding amps, but
you can get much better sounding, higher quality amps for the money.
Like the ZMF Pendant (Apmsandsound), the DNA Starlett or Stratus which will both be on a whole nother
level soundwise for around the same price.

I own a Wa22 1st gen myself but had to invest over 600€ more for NOS tubes to really make it sound excellent.
I will be selling it soon, since I managed to snag up the very last original Eddie Current Studio Jr.(and propbably the last original EC ever) that is being burnt in at this very moment.

It cost me 2800$ without 300B tubes but is on par with amps that cost up to 10k or more.
The Wa22 with upgraded tubes would cost me 3000€ at least, and won't even come close to the Studio Jr.
You basically get what you paid for - in Wa22's case a good sounding amp with a beautifull chassis milled out of expensive aluminum blocks that have to be scraped if there are mistakes - which you pay for.

Just get the ZMF Pendant or DNA Starlett/Stratus and save yourself the money and time spent on experimenting and buying a custom amp later anyway - like most who owned a Wa22 did.
Zach and Ampsandsound made it specifically for ZMF cans, plus it is strong enough for most planars out there:



Or the stratus (he talks about the cable but mentions the amp), one of the best amps in the world, true high end:



And here we have the wonderful DNA Starlett impression thread on "another" forum:

https://www.superbestaudiofriends.org/index.php?threads/dna-starlett-impressions.8361/

 

[StarlightDawn]

Woo amps tend to be overpriced for the performance they offer, don't get me wrong they are very well made, beautiful and good sounding amps, but
you can get much better sounding, higher quality amps for the money.
Like the ZMF Pendant (Apmsandsound), the DNA Starlett or Stratus which will both be on a whole nother
level soundwise for around the same price.

I own a Wa22 myself but had to invest over 600€ more for NOS tubes to really make it sound excellent.
I will be selling it soon, since I managed to snag up the very last original Eddie Current Studio Junior that is being burnt in at this very moment.
It cost me 2800$ without 300B tubes but is on par with amps that cost up to 10k or more.
The Wa22 with upgradeed tubes would cost me 3000€ at least and would not even come close to the Studio Jr.
You basically get what you paid for - in Wa22's case a good sounding amp with a beautifull chassis milled out of expensive aluminum blocks that have to be scraped if there are mistakeswhich you pay for.

Just get the ZMF Pendant or DNA Starlett/Stratus and save yourself the money and time spent on experimenting and buying a custom amp later anyway - like most who owned a Wa22 did.
Zach and Ampsandsound made specifically it for the Verite and ZMF cans, plus it is strong enough for most planars out there:



Or the stratus (he talks about the cable but mentions the amp), one of the best amps in the world, true high end:



And here we have the wonderful DNA Starlett impression thread on "another" forum:

https://www.superbestaudiofriends.org/index.php?threads/dna-starlett-impressions.8361/

Thank you for the links!
It's just hard to buy something that cost this much without actually trying it out myself.
Yeah, I think I'll just wait it out... see how things are towards the end of 2020. I will take a step back, and enjoy what I currently have.

 

[Empyah]

Hey everyone!

I'm very new to the world of audio (a year in), and I currently have the Verite Open + Tia Trio connected to the Questyle CMA 400i. I feel like I'm not listening to the Verite's fullest potential.. so I have been thinking of upgrading the 400i to the CMA Twelve Master, although the idea of having a seperate Amp + DAC intrigues me. I am quite interested in the WA22, HA-6A, and Manley Absolute. The problem I am facing is that most of the reviews are positive, but the moment I look up what the community are saying it tends to be negative. Since I'm located in Indonesia, there isn't any demo units around here.. so it makes things much harder since it will be a blindbuy. Maybe you guys could point me to the right direction?

Cheers!

Good not to trust randos on the internet.
That will save you money and time. Look to visit fairs and meets to hear the amps for yourself.
And to be honest the most help in our hobby one can have is friends and aqaintances you can trade and exchange gear with.
Have fun!

 

[StarlightDawn]

Good not to trust randos on the internet.
That will save you money and time. Look to visit fairs and meets to hear the amps for yourself.
And to be honest the most help in our hobby one can have is friends and aqaintances you can trade and exchange gear with.
Have fun!

I completely agree with that. Experience is the best teacher afterall.
Thank you once again

 

[Empyah]

I completely agree with that. Experience is the best teacher afterall.
Thank you once again

I have to ad here - the Wa22 I have is 1st gen, the Gen 2, which should be an improovement in any aspect, I have not heard.
While we are at it - has anyone here had the chance to hear the new Wa22 and compare to gen 1?

 

[hackstu]

Just bought two 6080 with these values.

Section a 53mA 3.4ma/V gm
Section b 58mA 3.4ma/v gm


Section a 58mA 3.3ma/V gm
Section b 50mA 3.4ma/V gm

As they are not matched, whats the worst that can happen?

 

[Joao Paulo Martins]

Just bought two 6080 with these values.

Section a 53mA 3.4ma/V gm
Section b 58mA 3.4ma/v gm


Section a 58mA 3.3ma/V gm
Section b 50mA 3.4ma/V gm

As they are not matched, whats the worst that can happen?

Disbalance maybe. Don't worry about it.

 

[cddc]

Just bought two 6080 with these values.

Section a 53mA 3.4ma/V gm
Section b 58mA 3.4ma/v gm


Section a 58mA 3.3ma/V gm
Section b 50mA 3.4ma/V gm

As they are not matched, whats the worst that can happen?

They are matching very well, but the problem is that they are too weak. The spec for 6080 is 7mA/V, so you bought sub 50% tubes.

 

[hackstu]

Duds then? They are bendix graphite plates.

 

[m17xr2b]

^ depends on the testing values but true. For the typical values on the datasheets it's 100mA for a new tube and 60mA and below for a failed tube. Mind you that doesn't mean it can't be used for a long time in certain scenarios(BH Crack for example) but I'd be sceptical unless the testing parameters are shared.

 

[hackstu]

Tested on AVO Mk4 characteristic meter, finding of each is set out below with 100v on the anodes and -30v grid.

This was said on the ebay post

 

[silversurfer616]

Need some help with a channel imbalance issue. Got my WA22 back from a friend and no matter what tube configuration there’s always a channel imbalance. Stereo image still present but vocals are always at around 10o‘clock and not in the middle. Thanks for any tips and help.

 

[bpiotrow13]

Apologies if i have missed this info on the forum, but could anyone tell what the difference between 1st and 2nd gen. is (apart from preamp)? It seems it is not significant.

 

[bpiotrow13]

Just get the ZMF Pendant or DNA Starlett/Stratus and save yourself the money and time spent on experimenting and buying a custom amp later anyway - like most who owned a Wa22 did.

Just have seen this but think i would try wa22 despite this. Just posted WTB in for sale thread if anyone is interesred.