why so many ipods in here?...

[discord]

-15 hours of battery life is enough for me. I don't camp out in the jungle or get stranded on islands.

-I don't care about FM radio/voice recorder. Those are useless to me.

 

[Spad]

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Originally Posted by luuk I was wondering the same thing as lollavid. I thought many headfiers would buy a sony hd-5 (for the great sq, cause that's what's it all about?). I expected more iaudioplayers because of: head-fiers look further then the known brands in mp3playercountry. iaudio has a usereq iaudio can play more formats (flac, ogg, wav etc.) iaudio is/was a non-mainstreambrand, and most head-fiers are not the mainstreampeople iaudio has better buildquality. I'm not saying the ipod is bad, or is worse then the x5 (I think there equal, each has his pro's and con's).

Head-Fiers are easier to please than you seem to think, Luuk.

We're always satisfied with the best.

 

[fewtch]

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Originally Posted by Spad Head-Fiers are easier to please than you seem to think, Luuk. We're always satisfied with the best.

Hah! The word "satisfied" is rarely uttered on head-fi. Get the best, it's then time to start cross-grading, at least until a new "best" comes out.

I think if someone here said they were satisfied with a piece of gear and had no future plans to upgrade, the universe would implode instantly.

 

[Spad]

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Originally Posted by fewtch I think if someone here said they were satisfied with a piece of gear and had no future plans to upgrade, the universe would implode instantly.

Yep, "best" a moving target, and we never all agree on what best is to begin with.

 

[y0da]

The 5G ipod is alot better then the prev generations of Ipod....i still have my resavations about the player but its not a bad product ...i am very happy with my Iriver H120 it had everything i was looking for at the time and now rockbox makes it still one of the best players out there....I really don't think head-fi is ipod heavy i mean look at how many people here have photos posted of zen micro's inside altoids tins

 

[lollavid]

Finally a flame- lol! No, I acknowledge the perspectives here and never wanted to put people on the defensive (okay, maybe just a little bit

). If you must know, marketing is not the same as studying product attributes btw. I think we can all agree that Macintosh has had a successful ad campaign since at least 1984- See their original (and very important) ad at: http://www.uiowa.edu/~commstud/adclass/1984.mov

The fact is, they are selling a lifestyle of rebellion, freedom, of being against the status-quo... and yet they promise a life of rebellion in the marketplace ! No need to protest, no need to gather together... if you want to be a rebel, to "Think Different" then buy a Mac (or Ipod, as the case were). This is the message we are being inundated with and THAT is marketing, not battery life! The implications may be indeed grand as we see the authentic creation of alternative lifestyles becoming more and more difficult to articulate if we are promised EVERYTHING just by buying stuff.

That being said, I acknowledge that the respondents are indeed informed consumers and not "sheep" as I provocatively put in the initial thread. But it's a fun discussion to read... lol! By the way, I don't take myself too seriously and I hope you all don't as well... just PLEASE make sure you trefer to me Dr.

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Originally Posted by Spad Not that I care, but you're off about 40 percent there, Prof. And for a hundred bucks more you get twice the space, 20 hours audio runtime, and 50 percent more for video. Marketing, uh?

 

[carsncars]

Even past all the marketing, the iPod is a good product. Well designed, well executed, and has a barrage of support behind it. It has average (30Gb) battery life for its segment, and I find that Apple's about spot-on with the battery life predictions. There are three camps; those who see it as how it's being marketed, those who see past the marketing for what it is, and those who see it as how it's being anti-marketed. Anti-marketed, as in those people who'd hate iPods no matter what.

The HD5 has a nice headphone-out sound, in a consumer sense, and I enjoy listening to it, but the iPod sounds more 'natural', and less processed to me. And the HD5 (using IEMs) doesn't work well for classical music-- a lot of hiss. Still, it's enjoyable to listen to, a nice, warm, round, fuzzy sound-- reminiscent of a CD player, to me.

 

[Strings]

The only thing that bothered me about the Ipod was battery life. But as discord says.

"I don't camp out in the jungle or get stranded on islands"

The Ipod's battery life should be more than enough for most I would have thought.

Battery life aside.. I dont see any other problem with people liking it. Lovely SQ via the line out, nice GUI and looks quite pretty as a wee bonus.

I've owned a couple of iRiver IHP-140s now for a few years and am probably going to keep them for a few more.

But I do like the look of a Nano 2GB

 

[K2Grey]

I would guess that it's probably because the iPod has a good line-out, which is presumably better than amping other mp3 players from the headphone out (although I don't think anyone has actually compared them). I'm also sure alot of people also have the idea that all portable mp3 players are inferior to a 'real' setup and as such they don't care as much about optimizing their mp3 player setup.

 

[Spad]

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Originally Posted by lollavid Finally a flame- lol! . . .

You think that was a flame? Man, you really are a newbie!

 

[Taphil]

In terms of interface and GUI, the iPod is plain simple and easy to use. But one of the things not mentioned often about the interface is the instant-on feature. Does any other mainstream mp3 player have instant-on? Even a 10 second boot time is too much on other players when you're used to just pressing a button on the iPod and being ready to go.

Yes, the new iPod now lacks a (useless) remote and AC adapter. So for $329 for the 30GB and AC adapter, is anything else priced as well?

Also, the iPod is not a "lifestyle" - it's just an mp3 player. Apple tried to sell a lifestyle with its computers and integrated software, but didn't seem too successful. Selling a good product like the iPod, however, worked.

 

[BlindTiger]

I have a feeling this is another one of "those" threads that will be over 4 pages.

 

[hekoman]

I think the iPod is a great player. I have a 1G, and I have played around with 4G's, but I personally don't like browsing my music via an tag database, and I also don't like being tide down to using software to get music on to the player. I have all of my music perfectly organized in Artist/Album/Song format and I much prefer to browse via a file tree. That is why I love my h120 so much.

Also due to the lack of codec support steers me away form getting a 5G, or any other iPod. I have music in almost ay format imaginable, and most in ogg, so most of music would not even play on an iPod.

But it is a great player and it does deserve the praise that it gets. (At least from audiophiles people anyway)

 

[ls20]

i wasnt a big fan of the 3g ipod when it came out, as i was a immeasurably happy with my creative zen.

3 years of good service later, the headphone port is finally giving out, the machine has finally become too bulky to carry around on hand (it hasnt grown, and my hands havent shrunk, but it just seems larger!), and now, since i plan to use it as a car-source, the ipod makes sense

my new car has a coordinated interior that i'd hate to ruin by using aftermarket head-unit. plus, i was tired of burning new mp3-cds (for my alpine mp3 HU) everytime i got a few new albums. and i wouldnt want to waste the upgraded stereo's capabilities by using tape-adapter or fm transmitter.

so that leaves the ipod and iaudio. i dont need fm radio--with mp3 capabilities, why would anyone WANT to listen to the radio? i never need more than 10 hours of continuous battery life. now, with its newest and smallest form-factor, the ipod is just tooo impressive to overlook. the setback of the ipod for me 3 years ago was the price... but now that i can afford one, WHY NOT?

theres no need to call people sheep because of differing needs or desires

 

[blessingx]

I think I am becoming a sheep, because my desire to write a detailed response to being called one lessens with every one of these threads.

I'll only say:
A) Use the search feature if you really care about answers. These questions are asked all the time (including your repeated inaccurate "battery scam" one). I'm sure even within your couple weeks here they have. Do a little work.
B) Having worked in marketing for four years previously, your writing fits right into that flock. God I'm glad I'm out of that mindset.