Originally Posted by anetode /img/forum/go_quote.gif Who are you trying to convince here? And in general, why in the world would you take a wiki's word over that of a publication written by reputable journalists (AMG)?
LOL, since when did AMG become "reputable journalists"? No seriously, it's hard to argue that Tool is a metal band, they're more accurately a prog rock band with heavy metal influences. And even if Tool is a metal band there's no way Maynard James Keenan can be considered to be better than "good". If Tool can be considered a metal band then Porcupine Tree has to be considered a metal band too, Steve Wilson is a class above Keenan.
Originally Posted by Redcarmoose /img/forum/go_quote.gif Please can you tell me what the point of this poll is? I missed the reason the list has only a few singers. Is it a falsetto list?
This list isn't that bad. If you take out Dane and Barlow, put in Halford and Khan, then argubly replace Kürsch and London with the likes of Tobias Sammet and Dickinson and you got a very accurate list of the contenders for best clean metal vocalists ever.
Originally Posted by anetode /img/forum/go_quote.gif Who are you trying to convince here? And in general, why in the world would you take a wiki's word over that of a publication written by reputable journalists (AMG)?
The last thing I want to do is argue genres with some elitist internut, especially one who takes random quotes to support his point of view over, you know, real thought and analysis.
It's more of a matter of perspective. Back in the early 90s Tool was heavy metal, since the "nu metal" moniker wasn't around yet and no progressive rock sounded like Opiate-era material.
Likewise with Led Zeppelin, they were considered metal decades ago because the field was still in its infancy. Later in the 80s, the influence of the blues became less pronounced and the field gravitated towards morbidity as one of the defining factors of the genre. So yes, they were called "heavy metal" and yes, by today's standards they wouldn't be. If you're talking about the quality of vocalists, I think it's been lacking in death metal and of the choices I was familiar with in the poll, no one really stood out.
Originally Posted by scytheavatar /img/forum/go_quote.gif This list isn't that bad. If you take out Dane and Barlow, put in Halford and Khan, then argubly replace Kürsch and London with the likes of Tobias Sammet and Dickinson and you got a very accurate list of the contenders for best clean metal vocalists ever.
You think Bruce Dickinson and Rob Halford are better clean singers than Rowan London? I cannot agree with that at all. Dickinson and Halford are great singers, but when it comes to shear talent, they are not even close. Rowan is a classically trained opera singer with fantastic range, the others... not so much.
Originally Posted by roadtonowhere08 /img/forum/go_quote.gif You think Bruce Dickinson and Rob Halford are better clean singers than Rowan London? I cannot agree with that at all. Dickinson and Halford are great singers, but when it comes to shear talent, they are not even close. Rowan is a classically trained opera singer with fantastic range, the others... not so much.
Classically trained opera singer with fantastic range.... why the heck would that matter for a metal singer? London's clean vocals are like Akerfeldt's, they have a very specific and specialized role and for London his vocals work in tandem with the female vocals. For that reason I am not sure if it's fair to compare his vocals with the more general purpose and versatile vocals of Halford.
And anyway London is like Labrie at times, his high notes can be really painful to listen to.
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Originally Posted by darkangel9685 /img/forum/go_quote.gif no James Labrie of Dream Theater fame?
Wow, I am surprised darkangel9685 would actually rate Labrie's vocals.
Originally Posted by scytheavatar /img/forum/go_quote.gif Classically trained opera singer with fantastic range.... why the heck would that matter for a metal singer? London's clean vocals are like Akerfeldt's, they have a very specific and specialized role and for London his vocals work in tandem with the female vocals. For that reason I am not sure if it's fair to compare his vocals with the more general purpose and versatile vocals of Halford.
You are only referring to his work on the two Requiem albums. There are no female vocals on Sombre Romatic and Elegant... and Dying; all vocals are done by him. If you have not heard either album, you are not doing him justice. If you view his vocal abilities as a sum of all the albums, he easily eclipses both Dickinson and Halford. And to compare Åkerfeldt's clean vocals to London's is silly. I love Mikael's clean voice, but it is nothing compared to London's.
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Originally Posted by scytheavatar /img/forum/go_quote.gif And anyway London is like Labrie at times, his high notes can be really painful to listen to.
Oh please! To compare James Labrie to Rowan London is silly. Labrie cuts corners all over the place live, while London sings faithfully to the studio album.
Originally Posted by scytheavatar /img/forum/go_quote.gif So now you learn your lesson, never add a poll to discussions that are never going to be limited to a number of choices.
But seriously, there's no way Barlow and Dane are worthy of being contenders for best clean vocalist ever. Barlow is more one-dimensional than a straight line, while if there's any thrash vocalist worthy of being best clean vocalist ever it will be Blitz from Overkill.
You don't like Matt Barlow because he was a policeman. - Ha, ha, ha, ...
Apropos Warrel Dane:
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Dane was trained for five years as an opera singer and utilizes a very broad vocal range (between 5 and 6 octaves according to Warrel's teacher), spanning from low to very high notes. His use of very high notes were more prominent in his Sanctuary and Serpent's Knight days but are still utilized in Nevermore.
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