who makes cables for JH audio---iems such roxanne and lola

Jan 13, 2020 at 6:42 AM Thread Starter Post #1 of 15

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Greetings

I am looking to buy a great after market cable for lola and roxanne

Any idea which company makes such cables with bass boost adjuster, besides moon audio

And any recommendations are highly appreciated
 
May 7, 2020 at 1:27 AM Post #3 of 15
Greetings

I am looking to buy a great after market cable for lola and roxanne

Any idea which company makes such cables with bass boost adjuster, besides moon audio

And any recommendations are highly appreciated
Sound EQ

Hope I'm not being redundant, but have been reading Head-Fi posts for years but finally Joined so I could post some information and see others, and ran accross your question here, but you did ask back in Jan of this year, so fogive me if you've already found the information below.

I reached out to your posting of WTB aftermarket JH Audio cables, and offered my Moon Audio Cables because I have replaced them with an X8 Cable from PlusSound.
Can whole heartedly recommend PlusSound, and if like me you were looking to brighten up the JH Audio sound, then take a look at the Tri-Silver or Gold Plated Silver wires in the X8 configuration
Other choices for you are The Octa Versions of the Effect Audio Heritage Series (Lionhart, Cleopatra and Leonidas II) as they too make the JH Audio 4pin with bass adjusters. Have heard the Leonidas II cables and they too work with the JH Audio IEMS.
There was another thread were I believer it was Diezel or Twister 6 listed out about 7 companies who do the JH Audio wires with Bass adjusters.
Again sorry if this is all old news, but wanted to leave this information out for you.
 
May 7, 2020 at 7:55 AM Post #4 of 15
Sound EQ

Hope I'm not being redundant, but have been reading Head-Fi posts for years but finally Joined so I could post some information and see others, and ran accross your question here, but you did ask back in Jan of this year, so fogive me if you've already found the information below.

I reached out to your posting of WTB aftermarket JH Audio cables, and offered my Moon Audio Cables because I have replaced them with an X8 Cable from PlusSound.
Can whole heartedly recommend PlusSound, and if like me you were looking to brighten up the JH Audio sound, then take a look at the Tri-Silver or Gold Plated Silver wires in the X8 configuration
Other choices for you are The Octa Versions of the Effect Audio Heritage Series (Lionhart, Cleopatra and Leonidas II) as they too make the JH Audio 4pin with bass adjusters. Have heard the Leonidas II cables and they too work with the JH Audio IEMS.
There was another thread were I believer it was Diezel or Twister 6 listed out about 7 companies who do the JH Audio wires with Bass adjusters.
Again sorry if this is all old news, but wanted to leave this information out for you.
thanks so much for this info, I bought those , thanks though for all the info which is very helpful

https://www.head-fi.org/threads/jh-audio-iems-cable-rolling-with-whyears-adapters.926253/
 
May 7, 2020 at 8:37 AM Post #5 of 15
Best cable I heard at london Canjam 2 years ago were labkable pandora,I also had the Jh audio lola with the calyx m I did also audition effect audio cables.Labkable offer around 30% of discount at canjam shows
 
May 7, 2020 at 10:06 AM Post #6 of 15
thanks so much for this info, I bought those , thanks though for all the info which is very helpful

https://www.head-fi.org/threads/jh-audio-iems-cable-rolling-with-whyears-adapters.926253/
Sound EQ
OMG, I did see and responded to your post, apologies I did not connect the 2.
I too sent a order to WhyEars, and a week later after they took my payment, they sent me a shipping number but have since closed their Shopify Store AND have not shipped my adapters as far as I can tell.
Wanted these as Barolo mentioned at Can Jam's many cable makers do show up, but bring mostly 2 pin cables, so wanted these to be able to try out new cables.

Thanks again for responding and for letting me send in despite it being several months after you posted your questions!
 
May 7, 2020 at 10:16 AM Post #7 of 15
Sound EQ
OMG, I did see and responded to your post, apologies I did not connect the 2.
I too sent a order to WhyEars, and a week later after they took my payment, they sent me a shipping number but have since closed their Shopify Store AND have not shipped my adapters as far as I can tell.
Wanted these as Barolo mentioned at Can Jam's many cable makers do show up, but bring mostly 2 pin cables, so wanted these to be able to try out new cables.

Thanks again for responding and for letting me send in despite it being several months after you posted your questions!
getting the adapters was the best thing as i have some nice cables from OC studio, and each cable matches one of my 3 jhaudio iems.
 
May 7, 2020 at 3:41 PM Post #9 of 15
I'd be interested in upgrading my cable in time, but the new stock cable is so light! Any recommendations? Always trying to get more clarity in the sound.
Avenida,
If your not using the JH 4pin adapters with Bass Adjusters Sound EQ spoke of above, your limited to those who can make an 8wire cable, as the bass adjuster pod is put into the wires that go to the pin in the JH Audio connector for low frequency.
Without the adjustment pod, it will be equal to having the bass adjuster cranked up to full open/5 O'clock position all the time.
While someone that is a Bass head might like it, it is pretty heavily slanted to bass forward for most peoples tastes, and some reviewers elsewhere on Head-Fi have commented that at that position it introduces some distortion to the sound. Others have stated they like it that way

For 8 wire cables, they can be thicker than the stock. Depending on what material is used for the wire, they will be heavier than stock
Example, while the Moon-Audio Silver Dragon V2 IEM for JH Audio is physically similar in size to the stock cable, because it is a pure silver cable, it is heavier, but it does improve the sound quite a bit (I own/have used both their Black Dragon and Silver Dragon cables for JH Audio IEM's)

Having said that, it will depend on what your goal is. I posted my thoughts on the PlusSound Thread for their X8 Tri-silver cable I purchased as I was trying to brighten up the sound of my Roxanne's and this cable did this!
I've listened to at Can Jam and after lots of research almost purchased the Effect Audio Leonidas 2 Octa, and was playing with the idea of a hybrid Effect Audio Cleo/Leo2 Octa cable, as well as a PlusSound hybrid of Tri-Silver and Gold/Silver
Being you'll be using an 8 wire design most companies will let you do a hybrid cable
For both of these companies (Effect Audio and PlusSound), they are really responsive to customer questions so email them with the goal your trying to hit, and they can advise

Kubig123 in the "Highend cable forum" back in 2018 posted this list of companies that have published they can make cables with the Bass Pod Adjuster:
  • PlusSound
  • Effect Audio
  • PW Audio
  • Has Sound Audio
  • Whiplash
  • Nocturnal Audio
  • Beat Audio Lab
  • Null Audio
  • Double Helix
  • Labkable

    I can add that Eric Chong who was with Effect Audio and now owns/runs Eletech cables makes a 4 wire cable without the bass adjustment pod, but does have a way to ask for a Bespoke cable and probably will do a 8 wire with adjustment pod.
I've looked at most of the sites above when looking for a new cable for myself, and narrowed it down to Effect Audio and PlusSound, having heard both cables and went with PlusSound but YMMV.

Feel free to reach back out here or via PM if you want to ask me specifically any questions
 
May 7, 2020 at 3:59 PM Post #10 of 15
Avenida,
If your not using the JH 4pin adapters with Bass Adjusters Sound EQ spoke of above, your limited to those who can make an 8wire cable, as the bass adjuster pod is put into the wires that go to the pin in the JH Audio connector for low frequency.
Without the adjustment pod, it will be equal to having the bass adjuster cranked up to full open/5 O'clock position all the time.
While someone that is a Bass head might like it, it is pretty heavily slanted to bass forward for most peoples tastes, and some reviewers elsewhere on Head-Fi have commented that at that position it introduces some distortion to the sound. Others have stated they like it that way

For 8 wire cables, they can be thicker than the stock. Depending on what material is used for the wire, they will be heavier than stock
Example, while the Moon-Audio Silver Dragon V2 IEM for JH Audio is physically similar in size to the stock cable, because it is a pure silver cable, it is heavier, but it does improve the sound quite a bit (I own/have used both their Black Dragon and Silver Dragon cables for JH Audio IEM's)

Having said that, it will depend on what your goal is. I posted my thoughts on the PlusSound Thread for their X8 Tri-silver cable I purchased as I was trying to brighten up the sound of my Roxanne's and this cable did this!
I've listened to at Can Jam and after lots of research almost purchased the Effect Audio Leonidas 2 Octa, and was playing with the idea of a hybrid Effect Audio Cleo/Leo2 Octa cable, as well as a PlusSound hybrid of Tri-Silver and Gold/Silver
Being you'll be using an 8 wire design most companies will let you do a hybrid cable
For both of these companies (Effect Audio and PlusSound), they are really responsive to customer questions so email them with the goal your trying to hit, and they can advise

Kubig123 in the "Highend cable forum" back in 2018 posted this list of companies that have published they can make cables with the Bass Pod Adjuster:
  • PlusSound
  • Effect Audio
  • PW Audio
  • Has Sound Audio
  • Whiplash
  • Nocturnal Audio
  • Beat Audio Lab
  • Null Audio
  • Double Helix
  • Labkable

    I can add that Eric Chong who was with Effect Audio and now owns/runs Eletech cables makes a 4 wire cable without the bass adjustment pod, but does have a way to ask for a Bespoke cable and probably will do a 8 wire with adjustment pod.
I've looked at most of the sites above when looking for a new cable for myself, and narrowed it down to Effect Audio and PlusSound, having heard both cables and went with PlusSound but YMMV.

Feel free to reach back out here or via PM if you want to ask me specifically any questions
hi those adapters have bass boost adjustment which is amazing so i can adjust bass, i really wonder though how plussound totl cables can improve juaudio iems compared to my OC studio iems, with lola I need a bit taming of highs, and with Roxanne i need more detail in mids and highs
 
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May 7, 2020 at 5:11 PM Post #11 of 15
hi those adapters have bass boost adjustment which is amazing so i can adjust bass, i really wonder though how plussound totl cables can improve juaudio iems compared to my OC studio iems, with lola I need a bit taming of highs, and with Roxanne i need more detail in mids and highs
Sound EQ
Forgive me if I butcher this as I'm not a Electrical Engineer by trade, so can only pass on what I have learned and am pretty sure if I misrepresent anything someone will chime in.

Without having the adapters you have (as the WhyEars Shopify store is permanently closed now) the only other place to get adapter like you mentioned with the adjustable Bass Dial is EU4A in Japan who has listed on his site he is NOT taking on any new orders at this time.
The only other adapters I've seen on line do not have the Bass Adjustment, so we all cannot enjoy the advantage you have of being able to cable roll with standard 4 wire 2 pin connector cables.
BUT.....

One advantage of going with an 8 wire design is the fact you are now "spreading" the signal over multiple cables and lowering the electrical impedance (resistance) vs a 4 wire, AND you are taking 2 of those 8 wires and dedicating it to the bass adjuster and the pin for low frequencies in the JH Audio 4 pin layout (See photo)
1588883709709.png

While your adapters as far as frequency range do the same by feeding only the low frequency pin a modified signal, you are not getting the advantage of reduced impedence which does have an effect on sound.
Utilizing electrical resistance properties is why cable makers are adding metals like Palladium to cables as it alters the signals "oh so much" that result in a difference in sound heard.
I know its a very HUGE debate here on Head-fi if cables and the theory of changed electrical resistance actually makes a sound difference for the cost so won't get into that part of the debate.

I'll just state, that it In My Opinion (IMO) it does make a difference of what I am hearing.
I purchased the CIEM’s Roxanne’s knowing that they are out of the box a little “dark” sounding (just as you noted), but walking around and demoing at Can Jam, chose them because they have a really amazing soundstage/depth and an impressive low end rumble that can be hard to get until spending considerably more, but the Roxanne’s highs were just OK.
But from past experience with other IEM's I knew I could “tune” that part of the sound later by changing out the cable from the stock OFC or OCC copper, to something different (Silver, Copper, Palladium Etc).
And I'm emphasizing “Tune” If the IEM’s don’t have a sound signature close to what you want NO cable is going miraculously fix that. If they are close, cables will help IMO

Knowing that and having tried other cables on other IEM's I own and testing other's JH Audio Cables, I formed opinions of who's sound approached what I wanted to change in my Roxanne's and from there approached the vendors, who confirmed which cables they offered did what to the sound, and then made my decision
For me, the PlusSound Tri-Sliver and the Effect Audio Leonidas 2 were the cables I settled on. Other reviewers on Head-Fi (Example - Twister6 in these forums and his own blog, and Marcus on Headfonics just to name 2 there are many more) have all stated that these 2 cables achieve the same goal with only slight subtleties and these small subtleties as well as other issues in this Covid-19 world (IE getting things out of the far east due to delays in shipping) led me to pull the trigger on the PlusSound cable.

I can honestly tell you I hear a difference even over my older Silver-Dragon cable from Moon-Audio (Another 8 wire with bass adjusters)
There was an improvement form the stock cable to the Silver-Dragons, and maybe for some that is all the improvement they would want. But I was looking for a little more extension in the highs without sacrificing any of the soundstage or mid and bass response. I definitely hear the difference as the IEM's I came out of to move to the Roxanne's had great high frequency extension but the Mid Bass and Lows were never what I wanted despite using cables that help tune that spectrum of the sound.
An professional audio engineer I know suggested the JH Audio IEM's (and several other IEM manufacturers) so I went to Can Jam, listened to all the IEM's I had targeted found the rough signature I was looking for in the Roxanne's and then set forth looking to fine tune via the cables, and found the combo I've been looking for.

Will what I've said work for everyone? Maybe not. but I'm willing to share all of the tuning I've gone through (which also includes DAC/AMP combos and Source Audio Material) to get where I am now for anyone who asks, so perhaps someone I can save someone a little trial and error (they will still need to do this as Audio is such a subjective art, and what I will state is IMO).

Sorry for the long winded reply, and YES I think the cables I bought are what I needed, especially since I can't get the adapters you have.
but I can say without a doubt, ask the cable manufacturer you are using now, what they think an 8 wire design might do for you. In some cases the might say nothing, but reviews through out Head-fi talk about how the 8 wire design changed the sound signature from the 4 wire version of the EXACT same cable. (Take a look for the reviews of the Leonidas 2 vs Leonidas 2 Octa, or there are reviews of the PlusSound EXO (4 wire) vs their X8 (8 Wire) where the reviewer talks about the difference between the 2, and for PW Audio their 2 wire 1960 (a 4 wire equivalent) to their 4 wire (An 8 wire equivalent) .
But I do leave anyone I talk to this advice when buying audio gear. "Audition/test until you can't hear a difference, look at the price and then go one model/spec back and see if you can justify the cost difference. If you can, buy it."
In many cases people can't hear a difference so they are happy with what they own (Price/Value proposition)
But each has to make that decision on their own.

But again YMMV and all of the above is IMO
 
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May 7, 2020 at 5:21 PM Post #12 of 15
Sound EQ
Forgive me if I butcher this as I'm not a Electrical Engineer by trade, so can only pass on what I have learned and am pretty sure if I miss represent anything someone will chime in.

Without having the adapters you have (as the WhyEars Shopify store is permanently closed now) the only other place to get adapter like you mentioned with the adjustable Bass Dial is EU4A in Japan who has listed on his site he is NOT taking on any new orders at this time.
The only other adapters I've seen on line do not have the Bass Adjustment, so we all cannot enjoy the advantage you have of being able to cable roll with standard 4 wire 2 pin connector cables.
BUT.....

One advantage of going with an 8 wire design is the fact you are now "spreading" the signal over multiple cables and lowering the electrical resistance vs a 4 wire, AND you are taking 2 of those 8 wires and dedicating it to the bass adjuster and the pin for low frequencies in the JH Audio 4 pin layout (See photo)
1588883709709.png
While your adapters as far as frequency range do the same by feeding only the low frequency pin a modified signal, you are not getting the advantage of reduced resistance which does have an effect on sound.
Utilizing electrical resistance properties is why cable makers are adding metals like Palladium to cables as it alters the signals "oh so much" that result in a difference in sound heard.
I know its a very HUGE debate here on Head-fi if cables and the theory of changed electrical resistance actually makes a sound difference for the cost so won't get into that part of the debate.

I'll just state, that it In My Opinion (IMO) it does make a difference of what I am hearing.
I purchased the CIEM’s Roxanne’s knowing that they are out of the box a little “dark” sounding (just as you noted), but walking around and demoing at Can Jam, chose them because they have a really amazing soundstage/depth and an impressive low end rumble that can be hard to get until spending considerably more, but the Roxanne’s highs were just OK.
But from past experience with other IEM's I knew I could “tune” that part of the sound later by changing out the cable from the stock OFC or OCC copper, to something different (Silver, Copper, Palladium Etc).
And I'm emphasizing “Tune” If the IEM’s don’t have a sound signature close to what you want NO cable is going miraculously fix that. If they are close, cables will help IMO

Knowing that and having tried other cables on other IEM's I own and testing other's JH Audio Cables, I formed opinions of who's sound approached what I wanted to change in my Roxanne's and from there approached the vendors, who confirmed which cables they offered did what to the sound, and then made my decision
For me, the PlusSound Tri-Sliver and the Effect Audio Leonidas 2 were the cables I settled on. Other reviewers on Head-Fi (Example - Twister6 in these forums and his own blog, and Marcus on Headfonics just to name 2 there are many more) have all stated that these 2 cables achieve the same goal with only slight subtleties and these small subtleties as well as other issues in this Covid-19 world (IE getting things out of the far east due to delays in shipping) led me to pull the trigger on the PlusSound cable.

I can honestly tell you I hear a difference even over my older Silver-Dragon cable from Moon-Audio (Another 8 wire with bass adjusters)
There was an improvement form the stock cable to the Silver-Dragons, and maybe for some that is all the improvement they would want. But I was looking for a little more extension in the highs without sacrificing any of the soundstage or mid and bass response. I definitely hear the difference as the IEM's I came out of to move to the Roxanne's had great high frequency extension but the Mid Bass and Lows were never what I wanted despite using cables that help tune that spectrum of the sound.
An professional audio engineer I know suggested the JH Audio IEM's (and several other IEM manufacturers) so I went to Can Jam, listened to all the IEM's I had targeted found the rough signature I was looking for in the Roxanne's and then set forth looking to fine tune via the cables, and found the combo I've been looking for.

Will what I've said work for everyone? Maybe not. but I'm willing to share all of the tuning I've gone through (which also includes DAC/AMP combos and Source Audio Material) to get where I am now for anyone who asks, so perhaps someone I can save someone a little trial and error (they will still need to do this as Audio is such a subjective art, and what I will state is IMO).

Sorry for the long winded reply, and YES I think the cables I bought are what I needed, especially since I can't get the adapters you have.
but I can say without a doubt, ask the cable manufacturer you are using now, what they think an 8 wire design might do for you. In some cases the might say nothing, but reviews through out Head-fi talk about how the 8 wire design changed the sound signature from the 4 wire version of the EXACT same cable. (Take a look for the reviews of the Leonidas 2 vs Leonidas 2 Octa, or there are reviews of the PlusSound EXO (4 wire) vs their X8 (8 Wire) where the reviewer talks about the difference between the 2, and for PW Audio their single wire 1960 (a 4 wire equivalent) to their 2 wire (A 8 wire equivalent) .
But I do leave anyone I talk to this advice when buying audio gear. "Audition/test until you can't hear a difference, look at the price and then go one model/spec back and see if you can justify the cost difference. If you can, buy it."
In many cases people can't hear a difference so they are happy with what they own (Price/Value proposition)
But each has to make that decision on their own.

But again YMMV and all of the above is IMO
thanks so much for all this valuable info, you are making me consider to buy one the cables mentioned, the roxanne i know has so much potential to take to the next level.

i have 8 core cables and 4 cables and definitely i can hear a big difference when used with my noble khan, so it seems buying a great cable for roxanne is priority now

simply put which one u rec for roxanne
 
May 8, 2020 at 12:15 AM Post #13 of 15
thanks so much for all this valuable info, you are making me consider to buy one the cables mentioned, the roxanne i know has so much potential to take to the next level.

i have 8 core cables and 4 cables and definitely i can hear a big difference when used with my noble khan, so it seems buying a great cable for roxanne is priority now

simply put which one u rec for roxanne

Apologies this reply is a little late, I'm one of the lucky few still employed and working during this Covid-19 shutdown.

Thank you for the kind words, and well glad I'm getting you excited to try something else, but as is the Head-Fi Moto "Sorry for your wallet" ;-)

I see in your comments above, you too think the Roxanne needs a little help with the higher frequencies.
And I agree the Roxanne has lots of potential. when I auditioned it and the Layla, they had their strengths but right or wrong I chose the Roxanne as I thought it could be tuned for the cost of going to the Layla.
I won't call it a review, but over on the PlusSound Thread
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/plussound-audio-thread.701384/page-90
I wrote my impressions of the X8 Tri-Silver on my Roxanne's (post 1345 on page 90) and have had a few people tell me they felt the same.
Basically it made the Roxanne feel more musical and complete across the entire frequency band. Less cut up and segmented.

My recommendations:
Your going to need to look at cables/types that will extend the highs, but not pull the mids any more forward than they already are or the highs will still sound veiled.
The JH IEM''s all have more bass than most IEM's so you don't want to emphasize those lower frequencies or even the mid bass. If it tightens that range up or smooths it out, that will be good as it will help the highs.
If you need more sub bass rumble you can adjust via cable type but it will also affect the entire range. That is probably best handled via the Bass Adjustment Pods to add the additional rumble and they will.
Given this, most copper or silver plated copper cables will emphasize the lower frequencies, and although they also "sweeten" the highs, it will add/emphasize midbass/mids and may not be what you want. (IMO). For other IEM's I've owned when I wanted to "warm" them up and add mid bass/mids, I looked at copper variants.
Why I looked at Silver cable variants was I wanted to extend the highs, control the bass and mids, and if possible extend the sound stage even more.
Reading all of the reviews of silver+gold alloys, gold plated silver and palladium plated silver the reviews all indicate that these will do what I needed, and seemed to be the direction to go.
And when I listened to these type of cables at Can Jam and other locations this is what I found.

There are many manufactures offering gold+silver alloys or gold plated silver, but it was the palladium plated silver cables I found the most engaging giving me the sound I thought I was looking for.
Right now I know of 3 cable makers who offer palladium plated silver wires (PlusSound, Effect Audio and Satin Audio) and 2 have been doing this for a while with lots of reputable reviews.

I'd recommend (and again IMO) you look at either the Effect Audio Leonidas 2 or PlusSound Tri-Silver.

Since your looking at doing an 8 wire and if there is another area you want to improve, you could look at doing a Hybrid (4 wires of one type, and 4 of another from either company) but when I reached out with the criteria I wanted, both came back with the suggestion of not doing a Hybrid since most hybrids of what they have would add extra weight to the bass which was something I was not looking to do.
Maybe with the Noble Khan's you own, that might be something to try with something like the Bespoke Cleo/Leo2 Octa from Effect Audio or the Gold+Silver and Tri-Silver from PlusSound

Adding in the following reviews below that have been posted here in Head-Fi for the Effect Audio Leo 2 and the PlusSound Tri-Silver.
https://headfonics.com/2019/01/plussound-tri-silver-x8-series-cable-review/
https://twister6.com/2018/11/27/plussound-tri-silver-cable/
https://headfonics.com/2019/03/effect-audio-leonidas-ii-octa-review/
https://twister6.com/2019/03/12/effect-audio-leonidas-ii-octa-cable-leo-ii-8wire/

You can't go wrong with either cable on the Roxanne's and if you read what I posted on the PlusSound thread you'll see my comments and what I found on that cable

Sorry for the length, just wanted to share info
And again it is IMO and YMMV

Welcome to Head-Fi, Sorry about your wallet
 
May 24, 2020 at 12:55 PM Post #14 of 15
Apologies this reply is a little late, I'm one of the lucky few still employed and working during this Covid-19 shutdown.

Thank you for the kind words, and well glad I'm getting you excited to try something else, but as is the Head-Fi Moto "Sorry for your wallet" :wink:

I see in your comments above, you too think the Roxanne needs a little help with the higher frequencies.
And I agree the Roxanne has lots of potential. when I auditioned it and the Layla, they had their strengths but right or wrong I chose the Roxanne as I thought it could be tuned for the cost of going to the Layla.
I won't call it a review, but over on the PlusSound Thread
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/plussound-audio-thread.701384/page-90
I wrote my impressions of the X8 Tri-Silver on my Roxanne's (post 1345 on page 90) and have had a few people tell me they felt the same.
Basically it made the Roxanne feel more musical and complete across the entire frequency band. Less cut up and segmented.

My recommendations:
Your going to need to look at cables/types that will extend the highs, but not pull the mids any more forward than they already are or the highs will still sound veiled.
The JH IEM''s all have more bass than most IEM's so you don't want to emphasize those lower frequencies or even the mid bass. If it tightens that range up or smooths it out, that will be good as it will help the highs.
If you need more sub bass rumble you can adjust via cable type but it will also affect the entire range. That is probably best handled via the Bass Adjustment Pods to add the additional rumble and they will.
Given this, most copper or silver plated copper cables will emphasize the lower frequencies, and although they also "sweeten" the highs, it will add/emphasize midbass/mids and may not be what you want. (IMO). For other IEM's I've owned when I wanted to "warm" them up and add mid bass/mids, I looked at copper variants.
Why I looked at Silver cable variants was I wanted to extend the highs, control the bass and mids, and if possible extend the sound stage even more.
Reading all of the reviews of silver+gold alloys, gold plated silver and palladium plated silver the reviews all indicate that these will do what I needed, and seemed to be the direction to go.
And when I listened to these type of cables at Can Jam and other locations this is what I found.

There are many manufactures offering gold+silver alloys or gold plated silver, but it was the palladium plated silver cables I found the most engaging giving me the sound I thought I was looking for.
Right now I know of 3 cable makers who offer palladium plated silver wires (PlusSound, Effect Audio and Satin Audio) and 2 have been doing this for a while with lots of reputable reviews.

I'd recommend (and again IMO) you look at either the Effect Audio Leonidas 2 or PlusSound Tri-Silver.

Since your looking at doing an 8 wire and if there is another area you want to improve, you could look at doing a Hybrid (4 wires of one type, and 4 of another from either company) but when I reached out with the criteria I wanted, both came back with the suggestion of not doing a Hybrid since most hybrids of what they have would add extra weight to the bass which was something I was not looking to do.
Maybe with the Noble Khan's you own, that might be something to try with something like the Bespoke Cleo/Leo2 Octa from Effect Audio or the Gold+Silver and Tri-Silver from PlusSound

Adding in the following reviews below that have been posted here in Head-Fi for the Effect Audio Leo 2 and the PlusSound Tri-Silver.
https://headfonics.com/2019/01/plussound-tri-silver-x8-series-cable-review/
https://twister6.com/2018/11/27/plussound-tri-silver-cable/
https://headfonics.com/2019/03/effect-audio-leonidas-ii-octa-review/
https://twister6.com/2019/03/12/effect-audio-leonidas-ii-octa-cable-leo-ii-8wire/

You can't go wrong with either cable on the Roxanne's and if you read what I posted on the PlusSound thread you'll see my comments and what I found on that cable

Sorry for the length, just wanted to share info
And again it is IMO and YMMV

Welcome to Head-Fi, Sorry about your wallet
this tri silver cable almost the cost of the roxanne itself, definitely I will not consider that
My question is how different is the moon audio silver cable compared to the tri silver
 
May 24, 2020 at 8:09 PM Post #15 of 15
Sound EQ.

Each owner will need to decide their spending limits. Mine is probably different than yours and that is neither good nor bad for either of us, IMO.

I’ve been lucky enough to have tested and heard differences IEM and cable combos make and why I choose to invest into my existing CIEMs than go buy others to chase the sound I’m looking for.
To get the same sound I now have without this investment, it would mean abandoning my investment in the Roxannes, and investing into something like the 64 Audio 18’s, Or Empire Ears Wraith or similar from another vendor which are more than the cost of my Roxanne’s and PlusSound cable together and when I auditioned several of these other IEMs they would still require an $400 to $900 or more cable change to have the sound I want. So for me it is maximizing my investment.

As to your question “How different Is the Moon Audio Silver Cable compared to the TriSilver?”
Considerably different.
I purchased the Moon Audio Silver Dragon V2 (a pure silver cable) and Black Dragon V2 (a silver plated copper cable in the JH V2 version) 8 wire made specifically for JH audio IEMs with a bass pod adjuster. I initially went with Moon Audio since they made the stock cables for JH audio.
And yes they did change the sound and were better than the stock cable, but I was looking for a specific sound and did not get there with the Moon Audio Silver Dragon, and since I could not get anything different than the Silver Dragon from Moon Audio, that started my search at each Can Jam or similar event I could audition cables made for JH audio IEMs.
But again this is a sound specific to my tastes, and everyone’s tastes and budget limits are different.
They Moon Audio cables did improve/tighten the bass and mids, but I already liked the bass and mids of the Roxanne’s and was looking to brighten them up, and while the Silver Dragons did do this, not quite to what I was looking for. As mentioned in my other posts, I’ve heard what the Roxanne’s can do when tuned, so knew I did NOT need to abandon them for another IEM, and needed to find the right cable to tune and get the sound signature I wanted.

If you’d like to try pristine Moon Audio cables, I’d be more than happy to sell any of mine. I’m thinking of putting them up for sale on the classified section of Head-Fi ( haven’t decided yet as the few who have PM’d me about them have been expecting me to give them away and did not give me a serious offer)
PM me if interested

Hope this information helps
 

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