I hear people say the A900s are efficient, which they are, however, I've also noticed something that tells me they definitely gain something from amping. I noticed it first with the A900s I had, when I was trying out a pair of HD-580s, and I found it strange that I needed a higher setting on my receiver to get the same volume, I think the 580s were at 35 and the A900s needed 50. Then when I recently got my A900Ti's, I noticed that with my Sony CD player (with pretty good integrated 1/4" headphone jack), that I need to turn the knob higher to get a decent sound/volume from them compared to my DT770/250s. I had a Meier Headfive with the A900s and it did a very nice job of driving them (smoothed it out, with just enough warmth and a bit extra bass, which with the blu-tak mod really helped them). I haven't yet gotten an amp with the Ti, although I'm aiming at getting an DAC/amp combo. I have found another interesting thing, is that my laptop drives the Ti's quite well, better than the 770s, so I'm not really sure what is going on. I can't go beyond the second volume level before it hurts my ears with the Ti. The sound is plenty full too, possibly even more than my receiver or the Sony.