[120717]

The bass and stuff seems to be to the left instead of the center.
I put them on backwards and it's centered more to the right, so it's not my ears.
I was going to sell them (and keep my AD2000 because the bass seems to extend lower) and assumed it was just my ears/imagination until I put them on backwards...
Short of fiddling with the drivers which could damage them more or at least make the sound weird I'm really not sure what to do.
Would Sennheiser repair them at a cost (ideally much less than what I paid for them) so I can sell them on?

What do you think I should do?

It'd kinda suck to find out they're broken, I was hoping to sell them and buy some nice closed/portable cans.

 

[Roger Strummer]

The first thing you might want to do is check if the drivers are loose, as explained in this thread.

 

[MomijiTMO]

Hehe that normally just messes up imaging rather than a slight channel imbalance. The next thing to check is the drivers themselves. Any 'dimples' on the driver need to be fixed. Be careful though as you could easily damage them. I know of one person who had an imbalanced caused by this. He simply 'popped' them back out.

 

[120717]

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What do you mean by dimples?

 

[MomijiTMO]

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Originally Posted by P4Z /img/forum/go_quote.gif [size=xx-large]T̵̮̠͕̞̩̜̹̻̜̥̪̪͈̘ͣͪ̈̀͛̈́̃̾ͣͨ̍̃̋ͩ͒̕̕͜͡H̸̵̎ͫͤͫ̇͌̈́ͤ̑̓͞͡ ̵̼̼͇̘̳̯̥̰̻̦̦̜̭͍ͅA͈͚͙̘̪̬̪̖͔͕͛̍ͤ͛ͥ̽͘͢͞͠Ņ̸̶̬̉̓̒̐̌̔͂͠ ̣̥̙͙͍̪̦̼̣̖̰̩̺K̴̑ͤͭ͂͐͏̩̺̝͖͎̻̟̱͈͕̙Sͯ͐͋͆͗̉ͭͦ̆̎ͪͥͩ̎͛́͞ ̸̙̗̘̲̞͈̣̗̞̗̩̤͎͡[/size] What do you mean by dimples?

Interesting

Your driver should look like that. You can actually push in the diaphragm to get a dent/dimple etc. As you can see, the diaphragm is not smooth and has little grooves. These are where these dents are most common.

 

[Roger Strummer]

Quote:

Originally Posted by MomijiTMO /img/forum/go_quote.gif Hehe that normally just messes up imaging rather than a slight channel imbalance. The next thing to check is the drivers themselves. Any 'dimples' on the driver need to be fixed. Be careful though as you could easily damage them. I know of one person who had an imbalanced caused by this. He simply 'popped' them back out.

I thought the "dimples" would cause distortion and not imbalance, but I've never experienced them, that's why I didn't think of that.

 

[Shahrose]

Whenever this happened to me (hasn't happened in a long time), it always turned out to be the wire connections between source and amp or amp and headphones. Check your source/amp also by testing them with other headphones.

 

[Aimless1]

^^^

This and be sure to make sure the headphone is seated all the way in the jack.

 

[120717]

It's the same using the stock cable with my Teclast T51, or my balanced cable with my Little Dot MK VII.
I'll take off the pads n stuff tomorrow to have a look, and if anything looks different between the two I'll remove the grills to fix it. At the moment I am WAAAY too tired.

 

[3602]

Not a problem. Probably in the music. I have the same situation with: beyer DT880, Sony MDR-XB700, AKG K319 so it's not your Senns. Ask yourself: Why are the woofers always positioned left in 2.1 speaker systems?

 

[ourfpshero]

u might have a deflated driver. open them up, look at the driver. if the drivers dome is not nicely puffed up like normal then blow in to the back of it to puff it back up. happens quite regularly around here. has happenned to me twice.

there is a small chance that the mylar melted on to the voice coil when deflating, i have seen that only once

also- try pushing in the cables plug going into that cup. senn cables are notorious for this. a 2 second fix!

 

[120717]

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3602 /img/forum/go_quote.gif Not a problem. Probably in the music. I have the same situation with: beyer DT880, Sony MDR-XB700, AKG K319 so it's not your Senns. Ask yourself: Why are the woofers always positioned left in 2.1 speaker systems?

The bass is on the left in some music.
I didn't know that woofers are on the left, I always imagined speaker systems would be symmetrical for proper front/back left/right balance.

 

[MarkJnK]

I started the thread that the other poster linked to. When the driver wasn't seated properly, it sounded imbalanced, so check this first. The plug for that side will also feel a bit loose or lack a solid click when seated, so thats another hint. Hae you dropped them recently, that might dislodge the driver.

 

[Audi4ever]

I had exact the same problem using my receivers HP jack. Then i tryed the headphone amp Graham slee Solo, the bass was centered and perfect. So i dont know if the receivers HP jack is damaged or what. I am noob .

I also use HD650

 

[Roger Strummer]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Audi4ever /img/forum/go_quote.gif I had exact the same problem using my receivers HP jack. Then i tryed the headphone amp Graham slee Solo, the bass was centered and perfect. So i dont know if the receivers HP jack is damaged or what. I am noob . I also use HD650

A sure way to know would be to try another headphones with that receiver, if the problem persists then definitely it is something wrong with the receiver. Otherwise... I don't know, I mean amplification affects soundstage and imaging, but I've never heard it affect the overall balance of the sound, as in everything coming from predominantly from one side in one amp and balanced in another one.