What is this called?

[gregorio]

yea its probably the harmonic profile then that makes this "special tone" which might just incedentially sound "in tune" with a certain (or multiple) music tuning scale(s)?
No, i have literally two 99.9% (999/1000) 1Oz silver coins (usually in my ground box, but not really relevant here), the sound it makes hitting those together im referring to (one grabbed with two fingers in the middle of top/bottom side, so one coin is somewhat free to ring)

And are you hitting those 1oz coins together with your fingers all the time your system is playing? If so, how are they grounding anything if they’re only connected to your fingers? And if not, what IS hitting them in your grounding box in order to make any “tone” at all, are there mice or little audiophile pixies “playing” the coins in your grounding box?

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[Ghoostknight]

And are you hitting those 1oz coins together with your fingers all the time your system is playing?

no, just as i was checking what sounds in tune with them

If so, how are they grounding anything if they’re only connected to your fingers? And if not, what IS hitting them in your grounding box in order to make any “tone” at all, are there mice or little audiophile pixies “playing” the coins in your grounding box?

sorry no pixies, just vibrations of the speakers and i wont go into the details of how my grounding box works as its pointless here

another pretty good test was placing the silver coins directly on the speaker, you can literally notice some high pitch tone (above 8khz or so) in the background if speakers are playing, but personally this was too much for me, it was a good test regardless

(now place instead of silver some copper on the speakers and the additional tone signature will change, as copper has another harmonic profile)

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just for giggles i can post two songs later today, one sounding in tune with silver and one sounding in tune with copper and you can
A. wonder what kind of distortions the copper song has
B. wonder if im truely right (just get two pieces of silver and two pieces of copper and hit them together with the songs, silver in the copper song will obviously sound out of tune and copper in the silver song too....)
C. wonder how this could be projected to people preferring silver in their system or other "more superior" types of copper like OCC

Copper: https://tidal.com/browse/track/61690286?u
Silver: https://tidal.com/browse/track/37063619?u

 

[gregorio]

sorry no pixies, just vibrations of the speakers

So you’re using solid silver speakers? My speakers are mainly made of wood, what’s the frequency of wood and how do I tune my system to wood?

another pretty good test was placing the silver coins directly on the speaker

Why would you ever place coins directly on the speaker and what on earth is it supposed to be a “pretty good test” of? What happens if someone uses a different sized silver coin, which silver frequency do you tune your system to?

just for giggles i can post two songs later today, one sounding in tune with silver and one sounding in tune with copper and you can
A. wonder what kind of distortions the copper song has
B. wonder if im truely right (just get two pieces of silver and two pieces of copper and hit them together with the songs, silver in the copper song will obviously sound out of tune and copper in the silver song too....)
C. wonder how this could be projected to people preferring silver in their system or other "more superior" types of copper like OCC

A. Huh, you think recording engineers record songs through speakers with copper coins on them? What copper coins, what frequency do they have?
B. There’s no such thing as copper songs, engineers do not record songs while hitting copper coins together or putting them on top of speakers! And “two pieces of silver”, like two silver spoons, two silver goblets or two silver audiophile cables, or does it have to be your personal silver coins, what frequency does this silver have?
C. Make them solid silver (or oxygen free copper) speakers and supply them with silver coins to throw at them while they’re listening to some happy hardcore. Make sure you get some solid silver (or oxygen free copper) ears to go with them though, so your hearing is in tune with the silver (or copper) music and of course a solid silver brain, so your perception is in tune as well!

Nuts, completely bonkers! lol

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[Ghoostknight]

Nuts, completely bonkers! lol

and i guess you double down on that "opinion"

 

[gregorio]

and i guess you double down on that "opinion"

Yep, I double down on the “opinion” that recording engineers don’t record songs through speakers with copper coins on them and that your claims are nuts!

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[Ghoostknight]

Yep, I double down on the “opinion” that recording engineers don’t record songs through speakers with copper coins on them and that your claims are nuts!

i didnt say that, you are ripping stuff out of context like you usually do

i merely said that these song sounds "in tune" with the resonant frequencies of a piece of copper/silver, however the recording engineer did it
im sorry if you cant hear it but others can

 

[bigshot]

i merely said that these song sounds "in tune" with the resonant frequencies of a piece of copper/silver

Absurd

 

[gregorio]

i didnt say that, you are ripping stuff out of context like you usually do

i merely said that these song sounds "in tune" with the resonant frequencies of a piece of copper/silver, however the recording engineer did it

You state that “I didn’t say that” but then your very next sentence you “say that” again!

The “resonant frequencies of a piece of copper/silver” are only excited if you hit a piece of copper or silver and what those frequencies are, depends on the size and shape of the pieces of copper or silver. So, “however the recording engineer did it” must have been hitting those pieces of copper or silver. Or, the engineers were not hitting pieces of copper while they were recording songs and your assertion is pure BS!

im sorry if you cant hear it but others can

I, on the other hand, am not sorry the slightest that I can’t hear something that doesn’t exist because that would mean I’m delusional! And, what “others” can hear something that you just made-up and doesn’t exist?

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[2leftears]

another pretty good test was placing the silver coins directly on the speaker, you can literally notice some high pitch tone (above 8khz or so) in the background if speakers are playing, but personally this was too much for me, it was a good test regardless

Try putting three grains of salt near each other in a triangle on top of the speaker, and rest the coin on top of that. It will provide better resonance. You can fine-tune the position of the three grains of salt to fine tune the resonance frequency of the coin, to get it precisely in tune with the music.

Then try different salts, with different metal coins.

Endless fun Ghoostknight, but forgive me for not joining in this nonsense

 

[71 dB]

Water does not have a frequency any more than air has a frequency, water hitting something can have a frequency but the frequency is determined by what it’s hitting, how much and how hard, etc., the water is hitting it. For example, waves crashing on a beach does not create “a frequency”, it creates “noise” containing almost all the audible frequencies, very similar to white noise.

The temperature of water has an effect on the sound water makes. Pouring cold water in a coffee mug sounds different from pouring hot/boiling water. We are even able to hear the difference because we have learned the difference (even if we are not aware of it!). This means using a sound sample of cold water poured in a movie when hot tea is served is wrong. It sounds "off."

It’s almost impossible to believe that you don’t know how acoustic instruments or even sound in general works, all school children are taught that.

I wish. My high school physics course number 3 (waves/vibrations) included 7 pages worth of acoustics (the basics) in the textbook. Most of the course is about mechanical vibrations, propagating waves and light. Physics isn't even mandatory. If I remember correctly, less than half of my classmates took physics in high school. Acoustics, sound and audio seems to be the least interesting subjects for the mankind in general. Only a very small minority, weirdos like us, are into these things. I am afraid most children learn hardly anything about how acoustic instruments or sound in general works. At best they are taught these things only to be forgotten after the exams. It is always best to assume other people know nothing about these things.

Endless fun Ghoostknight, but forgive me for not joining in this nonsense

Yes. Too nonsensical for me...

 

[Ghoostknight]

Got a whole playlist now for all kinds of materials and crystals

https://listen.tidal.com/playlist/0a482f52-e1f2-4545-aff6-6bf73adbdf0b

Another very good test was this: Speaker membrane materials!

you can literally compare the sound characteristics of the most common membrane materials (for example, beryilium, aluminium, carbon fiber, kevlar, paper and so on) to see what might sound best to you

my speakers have kevlar, and the specific "kevlar" songs not only sound in tune with the sound when tapping the membran lightly but it also gives you some of the "vibes" your speaker usually sounds like (if you listen to your specific membrane material)

personally im a fan of carbon fiber, kevlar and paper, which might definitely influence my next speaker purchase

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found this on temperature changes: https://www.researchgate.net/public...of_a_few_materials_for_temperature_variations

it seems to me the variation is rather small and even then, the resonant profile of a specific material probably stays the same but the fundamental pitch shifts a bit

@gregorio i still think it comes down to a variable that stays somewhat static, like the resonant profile .... or it wouldnt have such a consistent effect no matter the shape size and so on as you can literally take "any standard paper sheet" and check whether the "paper" song in the playlists sounds in tune

 

[bigshot]

Baloney.

 

[Quazar]

The world is ripe for destruction...
So much stupidity in one place...

 

[BS5711]

I just want to understand how one balances the sound changes caused by the speaker diaphragm material against that caused by the ground box and that caused by the crystals especially after conditioning them in sunlight !

 

[gregorio]

my speakers have kevlar, and the specific "kevlar" songs not only sound in tune with the sound when tapping the membran lightly

So let me get this straight, not only are you putting silver coins on top of your speakers while they’re playing, you’re also “tapping the membrane lightly”? Sounds ideal for fidelity and presumably the stereo speakers have to be quite close together, so you can reach to hit both at the same time. What do you do with a surround system, get friends over to tap the other speaker membranes?

Quite a dilemma you have there, do you tune to your silver coins, the copper in your amp/speakers etc or the Kevlar in your speaker membranes and, what about your ear drums/membranes, shouldn’t you be tapping those lightly too and tuning to that? How do you tune to all those different tunings at the same time, do you just pick one and then all your songs just sound out of tune with everything else?

What happens if you listen to a crap recording, do you sit in front of your speakers lightly tapping a piece of crap and tuning your system to it? That’s nasty, it’s not easy being a completely delusional audiophile!! Lmao

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