[madmonkey]

im wondering can they make a good cheap mp3 player?.

 

[msing539]

I'm guessing the most expensive part would be the screen.

You'd have to define "cheap" and "good."

 

[The1Signature]

i think we had this discussion a while ago. look at the iphone: production around 150 dollars but people "are willing / ready to give" 1500 dollars. so is is a 1 to 10 difference. however, one has to include all the engineering costs. but this is another story. the same goes for DAPs... when you search the wholesale prices for each piece, you will be shocked how "relatively low" they are. but again: it is the overall composition of this engineering masterpiece + customers' willing to pay that make up the price.

 

[Obizzz]

i think we had this discussion a while ago. look at the iphone: production around 150 dollars but people "are willing / ready to give" 1500 dollars. so is is a 1 to 10 difference. however, one has to include all the engineering costs. but this is another story. the same goes for DAPs... when you search the wholesale prices for each piece, you will be shocked how "relatively low" they are. but again: it is the overall composition of this engineering masterpiece + customers' willing to pay that make up the price.

Don't forget production volume. You can't make a product equivalent of the iPhone with the same production costs as Apple unless you're Apple.

With that said the profit margin of some hifi stuff is probably massive just because people are willing to pay.

 

[Whitigir]

The most expensive parts of any MP3 players is the research and developments. Expensive parts, regardless of price, don’t just shake hands and crawl into space to make an MP3 player

 

[madmonkey]

all i care about is sound quaility im happy with a small basic screen. i say under 100 bucks us is a good price.

 

[madmonkey]

i also wonder why cell phones dont come with good dacs like the lg did

 

[The1Signature]

With that said the profit margin of some hifi stuff is probably massive just because people are willing to pay.

this is what i said. manufacturers know they can demand more than needed in this enthusiastic area where money and comparisons become "relative".

The most expensive parts of any MP3 players is the research and developments.

of course. this is why i said when putting R&D by side, the most expensive mechanical parts one can get and buy wouldn't be that expensive.

i also wonder why cell phones dont come with good dacs like the lg did

sony phones have the best dac inside with hi-res etc. - the sound of xperia 1 III for example is just amazing for a smartphone.

 

[madmonkey]

im a sony fan boy been that way since my first walkman

 

[countryboyhk]

KOL are costly !

 

[goodvibes]

Haven't heard one but I suspect a Hiby r2 is good fit here. There are other less finished players with cool parts but in practice finished products with proper OS's tend to sound better than a cool parts accumulation. Internet Radio and Tidal access at that price point aint bad either. In case some aren't aware, Hiby writes software for more than their own players.

 

[psikey]

Don't forget production volume. You can't make a product equivalent of the iPhone with the same production costs as Apple unless you're Apple.

With that said the profit margin of some hifi stuff is probably massive just because people are willing to pay.

Or Samsung.

 

[psikey]

i also wonder why cell phones dont come with good dacs like the lg did

Because 99% of people are perfectly happy with Spotify and sub £100 ear/headphones.

 

[madmonkey]

i like a few cheap headphones and iems such as koss kz and samson.

 

[Shawnb]

im wondering can they make a good cheap mp3 player?.

Cheap and good are not two words that go together. Also "good" is subjective. For me nothing under $100 would be even considered, let alone thought of as good.