[headfirocks]

Which are the TOTL headphones with the least harsh, least bright, least fatiguing sound?  I have the K812 and LCD-X and both are too harsh for me.  I have some kind of a hearing sensitivity that I'm trying to figure out.

 

[rsgladwin85]

Of the headphones that I have heard....and these could be argued as not TOTL considering their other models, but I'd say the Audeze LCD2.2's. Definitely on the warm side.  

 

[rsgladwin85]

Also another thought.  I've never heard the Oppo PM-1 but I believe they might be a better fit also.  Perhaps someone who has experience with them can chime in.

 

[eyal1983]

The K812 and the LCD-X sounds edgy to you, because their treble is extended.
 
you have a good option - to change the OPAMP in your headphone-amplifier, to a warm/smooth one. what AMP. do you use ?
 
...and yes, the LCD-2/3 are very warm. they're like a "super HD650".

 

[headfirocks]

  The K812 and the LCD-X sounds edgy to you, because their treble is extended.
 
you have a good option - to change the OPAMP in your headphone-amplifier, to a warm/smooth one. what AMP. do you use ?
 
...and yes, the LCD-2/3 are very warm. they're like a "super HD650".

 
I'm using the Red Wine Audio Isabellina HPV DAC/amp.  It has a 6922 tube and I've tried an Amperex NOS and Telefunken NOS but I still have the problem.
 
I'm not loving my LCD-X so I shy away from trying the LCD-2/3.  Is the HD650 a warm (rolled-off?) headphone?

 

[jodgey4]

The HD650 is the epitome of warm/slightly rolled off. The LCD-2's are definitely darker than the X, I wouldn't cross those out immediately... especially the older revisions.

 

[eyal1983]

Is the HD650 a warm (rolled-off?) headphone?

 
It is warm, yes.
 
The AKG K812 does have more treble than the 650's.
BUT, the LCD-X has much less treble than the 650's...
 
If the LCD-X sounds "trebly" to your ears... 
I dunno... even the OPPO PM1/PM2 has more treble than the LCD-X has...
 
maybe ask about different tubes...
or just get an amplifier which uses the PCM2702 chip (has recessed treble)

 

[headfirocks]

   
the LCD-X has much less treble than the 650's

 
How can that be if the HD650 is considered rolled-off and the LCD-X isn't?

 

[eyal1983]

Look at the graphs...  HD650 in red.  LCD-X in blue.
The scale is 15dB so it is easier this way to see the differences between those 2 headphones:
 

 

[headfirocks]

OK, thanks guys.  I just ordered the HD560 and we'll see how it goes.

 

[jazzflav]

Hey headfirocks check out the AKG K240 Studio Headphones They may be Oldschool but still not harsh on the ears

 

[dfarina]

OK, thanks guys.  I just ordered the HD560 and we'll see how it goes.

I hope you meant to say HD650??If you did that would be a good choice for yourself,but if your experience goes like mine,give them at least 50 hours burn time,for me it made a huge difference with that headphone

 

[headfirocks]

I hope you meant to say HD650??If you did that would be a good choice for yourself,but if your experience goes like mine,give them at least 50 hours burn time,for me it made a huge difference with that headphone

 
Yep, I just checked, it was the HD650, thanks!

 

[headfirocks]

I'm liking the HD650 right out of the box!  Is there a "better" headphone that maintains its warmth and (sometimes-said) rolledoffishness?

 

[dfarina]

I'm liking the HD650 right out of the box!  Is there a "better" headphone that maintains its warmth and (sometimes-said) rolledoffishness?

LCD-2 non-fazor