Want to build a modest speaker home (apartment) theater set up

Feb 12, 2005 at 9:41 AM Post #46 of 58
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Originally Posted by RnB180
well, it matters if I listen to reference level audio during action movies, the subs peak at 120 dB alone.


Well, I assume you were referring to ... hell, I don't know...
 
Feb 12, 2005 at 9:59 AM Post #47 of 58
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Originally Posted by dreamnid
What's the reasoning behind a filter stage if that is the case?


Well, not frying your tweeters should be a good reason for a start...
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Greetings from Hannover!

Manfred / lini
 
Feb 12, 2005 at 10:39 PM Post #50 of 58
If you read up, you can see that I posted a couple, including a JVC vs. Panny shootout. It's not hard to search for the panny on audiocircle once you're already at the forum after clicking on one of the links I provided.
 
Feb 13, 2005 at 12:07 AM Post #51 of 58
This is too funny . ooheadsoo is dead on. People need to do a little research before badmouthing a "cheap" piece of equipment. I have a JVC F10 and its a truly awesome receiver. I bought it because of RESEARCH I conducted and have not regretted the decision one bit.

It has spring clip connectors for the speaker wire....big deal! Bolder Cable Company makes adapters! They make adapters because they know how good these things can sound! I, myself, don't need the adapter because I'm using some home-brew CAT6 cables that I made (bare ends into the terminals).
 
Feb 13, 2005 at 7:18 AM Post #52 of 58
went to raido shack and decided to make use of my left over cat 3 cable. wanted to get some practice in with some cheap rat shack plugs before my neutriks arrive.

made this tonight. Female mini to 1/4" male plug headphone extension. This is easy!

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Feb 22, 2005 at 3:50 AM Post #53 of 58
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Originally Posted by RnB180
You my be correct, havent kept up with budget components for a couple of years. I thought the main advantage of digital amplification was the temperature. Since I received my set up all equipment I looked at are not sold in big chain stores. I restrict my store selection to dedicated home theater shops

looking at NAD, Marantz, Rotel, Arcam, and McIntosh..



Some of you guys are comparing this panny to 4 digit price receivers? what receivers are you comparing them too? Thats a VERY bold statement.

I seriously doubt a $300 panny will hold up to a $1300 Rotel. Thats just too good to be true, what speakers are you comaring them too? because kilo buck receivers and amps can drive Martin Logans and I seriously doubt the panny can.

I know that the brands Im stating are far out of his budget, but you shouldnt be compairng a $300 surround receiver to a $1000 receiver or pre amp amp combo.

once again what kind of speakers are you listening to? I want to check out this panny.



No, I'm saying these Pannies have replaced many 5 digit price amp/preamp combo. If treatred right (with expensive transports, cables and power conditioning) I'm sure they could leave a $1300 Rotel receiver in the dust. I don't claim to have a killer system, simply an XR-SA25 (not the highest end Panasonic digital amp, and it's "last year's" model of that) + PSB 2B speakers. It does a great job, but I've heard these amps in a couple systems that would make a $1300 amp look out of place as way too cheap. This thing, for the right speakers (Von Schweikert, Vandersteen, Dynaudio, Magnepan, VMPS, and more) and the right associated equipment, can play at a ridiculously high level for it's price, appearance, build quality, etc.. The core technology is just that far ahead of the times.

And again, the amp is purely digital. The output to the speaker is digital, it's just such high frequency that it sounds analog to us (a good analogy is a TV or computer monitor, it flashes many times per second, but it's fast enough that it still looks like a solid image to us - cameras can see otherwise however). The process is fairly complicated, however the page I used to link everyone to that explained it very well in plain english, is gone now
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If someone can find an appropriate tutorial please link it! I barely understand it myself, I'm certainly unqualified to explain it to others.

Please, go read up on AudioAsylum.com about these amps, that's the best place for high end speaker audio that I've found. There are many stories of people replacing $20,000 worth of tube gear for these amps. Strange, but true. This is one of those "Optimus 3400 / Koss KSC-35" type of thing - the manufacturer I'm sure had no idea their product sounded so good, but audiophiles have found these flukes of nature. The good thing however, is that the technology that powers the Panasonic digital amps is here to stay, not a random combination of budget parts that happens to sound good!
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-dd3mon
 
Mar 6, 2005 at 8:21 AM Post #54 of 58
I haven't been able to follow this entire thread. Kinda confusing. Can somebody help? I'm still wondering what I should do.

By the way, one more question. With my budget (< $200 preferably or so for speakers), should I just stick to bookshelfs or are there any floorstanding ones worth considering?
 
Mar 6, 2005 at 10:44 AM Post #55 of 58
dd3mon, I've also read a few reviews from sites that dismiss these digital amps as "high end beaters" as pure hype, Audio Asylum site does seem to hype up products a tad. Alot of conjecture that they blow a $2000-$4000 poweramp out of the water..yeah a digital amp owner would say that.
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Checkout the review on ACI site.

Even our local Harmon/Kardon rep though their digital amp was a POS, and instead recommends their bottom of the range standard amp models instead.

IMO digital amps are suitable for subwoofers at the present time. It'll be a few more generations until I re-consider them.
 
Mar 6, 2005 at 2:37 PM Post #57 of 58
FOCUS!

Hes spending about $400 at the most and the panasonic is probably the best thing in his price range. You might be able to find one used for $150 and for $300 you can get a new Athena Micra 6 system for $300. The Athenas have gotten good reviews in a few HT forums. Or shop around for Infinity Primus speakers. One set got nice reviews in Stereophile and they are recommended over at AVS Forums.

Another solution would be a HTIB an Onkyo 770 or Panasonic SCHT202 (I think) CNET has a good review of the Panny and the Onkyo is also very well received. These 2 options will give you a nice system but you wont have any room for upgrades.

Again check AVSForum, Hometheaterspot, Audioholics and AudioAsylum.

Good Luck!
 
Mar 6, 2005 at 9:38 PM Post #58 of 58
If I were in your shoes I would buy a home-theater receiver now with two bookshelf speakers. Then, I would put the center channel speaker, and the two rear speakers (from the same company, and the same color that match your bookshelf speakers you already have) on layaway. There is nothing worse than buying a set of bookshelf speakers, and then finding out later that the center/rears that match them in color, and timbre are no longer available.
Are you looking for brighter more upfront sound from your speakers, or a laid-back darker sound?
 

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