[Roam]

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Originally Posted by tourmaline /img/forum/go_quote.gif Roam, as an engeneer i would have thought you would at least make your own amps!

I build them, she tells me what's wrong with them and helps with parts selection. She hears things which I sometimes have a hard time picking up, it makes my design cycle a lot shorter & easier.

 

[Dept_of_Alchemy]

Haha, that's great. Who needs a fancy multimeter when you've got a daughter/wife/girlfriend.

 

[Assorted]

Woman can always tell what's quality. Nerdy guys are in it for the electro-hype-gasm and big fat, juicy power cables (me).

 

[Logistics]

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Originally Posted by Dept_of_Alchemy /img/forum/go_quote.gif Haha, that's great. Who needs a fancy multimeter when you've got a daughter/wife/girlfriend.

This is why it's dumb when people have debates about whether something sounds better because it "measures" better on test equipment; everyone hears different so that serves no purpose. Any "real" speaker builder will tell you that no amount of equipment will yield you the best results, you have to listen, swap parts, listen, swap parts, in order to get what sounds best. If you're building them for someone else, then you have to have them listen, then swap parts, etc. Otherwise, you're just going by what is ideal from an electrical standpoint.

As GendoIkari would say, "Oscilloscopes and DVOMs don't listen to music. I do."

 

[cyanbomb]

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Originally Posted by Roam /img/forum/go_quote.gif I build them, she tells me what's wrong with them and helps with parts selection. She hears things which I sometimes have a hard time picking up, it makes my design cycle a lot shorter & easier.

Wowee... I'm envious of people with the technical know-how to build their own audio gear.

What kind of amps do you build, Roam?

Any pics? I'd love to see them!

 

[Dept_of_Alchemy]

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Originally Posted by Logistics /img/forum/go_quote.gif This is why it's dumb when people have debates about whether something sounds better because it "measures" better on test equipment; everyone hears different so that serves no purpose. Any "real" speaker builder will tell you that no amount of equipment will yield you the best results, you have to listen, swap parts, listen, swap parts, in order to get what sounds best. If you're building them for someone else, then you have to have them listen, then swap parts, etc. Otherwise, you're just going by what is ideal from an electrical standpoint. As GendoIkari would say, "Oscilloscopes and DVOMs don't listen to music. I do."

I sorta disagree. I think as far as amps and DACs are concern, their functions are mostly an electrical one and should be treated as an electrical engineering problem, their subjective performance (like everything else EE) should be correlated to objective measurements. Headphones are different because they are so far from ideal.

 

[Bosch]

Men think logically. Women think emotionally.

So perhaps your mum used her 'big picture' emotional impressions to good effect here.

 

[daltonlanny]

Hmmm,
Men think logically???

 

[cyanbomb]

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Originally Posted by daltonlanny /img/forum/go_quote.gif Hmmm, Men think logically???

Muahaha! I literally lol-ed!

 

[threEchelon]

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Originally Posted by cyanbomb /img/forum/go_quote.gif Wowee... I'm envious of people with the technical know-how to build their own audio gear. What kind of amps do you build, Roam? Any pics? I'd love to see them!

x2.

 

[Leporello]

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Originally Posted by Logistics /img/forum/go_quote.gif This is why it's dumb when people have debates about whether something sounds better because it "measures" better on test equipment; everyone hears different so that serves no purpose. Any "real" speaker builder will tell you that no amount of equipment will yield you the best results, you have to listen, swap parts, listen, swap parts, in order to get what sounds best.

I would just love to see the reactions of the good people designing loudspeakers at B&W, Quad, Revel, Genelec, Tannoy etc. when confronted with claims like this. Best post of the year.

Regards,

L.

 

[pageman99]

My girlfriend who is blind (since 6 month of age) and hears at an unbelievably detailed level thinks I'm nuts when it comes to audio.

She always tells me I'm letting all "those sounds" (think details) get in the way of enjoying the music.

I tell her she hasn't trained herself in what to listen for. That gets her laughing as she says her whole environment is sound, smell and vibration, but mostly sound. She insists she hears it all, but doesn't need it all.

She may be right, her mid fi speaker system, (which includes Sanyo vinyl, Pioneer CD, Onkyo receiver, and big Cerwin Vegas) may not be accurate in most audiophile ways, but it sure is involving and can even be called moving at times.

Methinks, she may be right about the need for accuracy.

On the other hand, maybe men just hear/perceive differently.

Edit1: I just realized we could call her reactions the results of a true "blind" test.
Edit2: BTW, she won't even put on my headphones as they make her violently claustrophobic. Says they cut her completely off from her world and feels trapped. I understand, of course, but it makes me even more curious concerning what she would say about the sound qualities of each of my headphones. Sigh...