USB DAC with Asio support

[obobskivich]

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Originally Posted by .Sup /img/forum/go_quote.gif EMU 0404 is a Dac with usb in and has asio supported

god you're such a troll

ignored troll is ignored.

 

[linuxworks]

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Originally Posted by obobskivich /img/forum/go_quote.gif @ linux dude, which one of those is the digital to mallard, and which one is the mallard to digital? (one is blue, one is green, there has to be some difference, riiight?)

those are balanced ducks. one is 180feathers out of phase with the other. that would account for any apparent color shift we may encounter while viewing them.

 

[jimmyjames8]

Have ASIO4ALL installed but I don't think I can make it work with my DacMagic via FOOBAR. Have to try again. All's I know is the DacMagic makes beautiful music with FooBar using the buffer setting instead of playing off hard drive. Big difference.

The CIA Dac is a better sounding dac but does not have USB input and is $200 more.

 

[.Sup]

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Originally Posted by jimmyjames8 /img/forum/go_quote.gif Have ASIO4ALL installed but I don't think I can make it work with my DacMagic via FOOBAR. Have to try again. All's I know is the DacMagic makes beautiful music with FooBar using the buffer setting instead of playing off hard drive. Big difference. The CIA Dac is a better sounding dac but does not have USB input and is $200 more.

try here mate: ãŠãŸã¡ã‚ƒã‚“ã®MIDI/Audioソフト thats what I use with winamp, theres also foobar asio plugin

 

[ri_toast]

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Originally Posted by obobskivich /img/forum/go_quote.gif thats what I love, nobody even read the actual meat of what I said, becuase of the elitist attitude towards any knowledge I'm not even saying "there is no such thing as a USB enabled DAC", I'm saying there is no such thing as a USB DAC with ASIO support, period, I also have painstakingly outlined this multiple times in plain english, with and without supporting data I get that the term "USB DAC" is thrown around to describe such a device, and I only defined it in such gory detail to help the OP and others understand why it cannot do exactly what he's claiming it has to do I honestly have no issues using the term "USB DAC", simply because of understanding (its like calling soda pop "coke", it isn't accurate, but people know what you're meaning), however I will debunk it when it needs to be debunked, simply for someone to understand the answer to their question (and, in part, in response to various personal attacks ) honestly, I think I'm about done with trying to teach the blind about colors

not ignored at all, one small problem is if you would call a emu-404 a dap is someone might mistake that as a digital audio player not a digital audio processor. i would have been very happy with direct sound on my emu-202. I only tried asio after reading many posts; to me it's all magic, smoke and mirrors till i read threads like this.
informative and entertaining? the ducks was pretty funny, no?

 

[Eric M]

Does USB Streaming/ASIO4ALL work with a Xitel DG2 to a DAC (like a Zero)

OR, I have coaxial out on my soundcard and optical out on my motherboard, would using those be preferred to USB?

 

[obobskivich]

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Originally Posted by linuxworks /img/forum/go_quote.gif those are balanced ducks. one is 180feathers out of phase with the other. that would account for any apparent color shift we may encounter while viewing them.

oooh, BALANCED you say?

so whats the overall quality of a system like that?

 

[paaj]

it wiggles like no other

 

[linuxworks]

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Originally Posted by obobskivich /img/forum/go_quote.gif oooh, BALANCED you say? so whats the overall quality of a system like that?

when you run them in pairs, each one can assume half the load.

however, in pairs they can often self-oscillate. shielding doesn't work.

only thing that works is to throw bread at them. then the feedback system works to actually quiet down the system.

but that's only a temporary fix.

 

[obobskivich]

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Originally Posted by linuxworks /img/forum/go_quote.gif when you run them in pairs, each one can assume half the load. however, in pairs they can often self-oscillate. shielding doesn't work. only thing that works is to throw bread at them. then the feedback system works to actually quiet down the system. but that's only a temporary fix.

so you're saying, bread, NOT money, is the solution to get maximum audio quality?

someone should tell patrick...

 

[linuxworks]

well, there was a strong correlation between the feedback and the noise. the more I fed them, the quieter things got - but only for a short while.

there was also some kind of field interference issue, too. not emi or rfi but the closer I got to the ducks, the more noise the system generated.

this whole scheme is just too prone to clipping, too, if you get too close to the 2 active elements.

 

[darklegion]

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Originally Posted by linuxworks /img/forum/go_quote.gif another thought - perhaps it helps - is to NOT run windows. in linux, there is no notion of 'forced 48k resampling' and as long as you don't have the volume controls in software set to non-zero attenuation (ie, just leave gains all at full in digital sliders) then you DO get bit perfect output. there is no notion of asio on linux or even kernel streaming, those are all windows brain-dead work arounds for having a bad audio design from the start.

Actually, this isn't quite true.ALSA by default has software mixing enabled (dmix) and this will convert to 48khz by default.However, it is pretty simple to bypass by setting the output device to "hw" with your music player or by just disabling dmix altogether.
Also if you are using sound daemons like pulseaudio (ubuntu default) or esd, these are also likely to have forced resampling for software mixing.

Of course, these are all just configuration issues and can usually be worked around very easily.

 

[linuxworks]

there isn't a real 'default' to resample in linux. this isn't the MS mandated 48k thing at all; if anything there are config files that just have to be SET (not changed but set since someone who made the distro picked the 48/44 setting).

and sound daemons don't resample either, unless they need to. I've not found where going thru a 'mixer' in linux killed my 44.1 and made it a 48. have you actually SEEN that happen?

 

[obobskivich]

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Originally Posted by linuxworks /img/forum/go_quote.gif have you actually SEEN that happen?

no but trolling is fun, nay?

 

[milkweg]

If you have Vista use foobar with wasapi plugin then you don't have to care if your DAC supports Asio or not. wasapi bypasses kmixer too.