[Klarnet Basowy]

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Originally Posted by Jo6Pak /img/forum/go_quote.gif Klarnet Basowy- Does the DarkVoice 336i fall under the category 'powerful and classy'?

I've never heard the DarkVoice 336i, sorry..

 

[Mulo]

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Originally Posted by MaloS /img/forum/go_quote.gif I might as well be frenetical if you want to call it that Obviously something that can move 20000 times a second is pretty fast, but there are finer points to this...fidelity can go pretty far

As far as my previously owned monitor speakers, like the Acoustic Energy AE1 MkII, Harbeth's, etc. ...for sure.

Seriously, saying that a high-end headphone is "slow" is quite ridiculous. In comparison, any speaker driver (even that of a mini monitor) would be completely left out of any pretension of fidelity...


And then again, I've never heard anything slow about my high-end Senns, or anything slower than those speakers. You're confusing yourself, I think. A "feelable" bass such as that of the HD650 might give you the superficial impression of being slow when it actually is being blazingly fast!

 

[MaloS]

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Originally Posted by Mulo /img/forum/go_quote.gif As far as my previously owned monitor speakers, like the Acoustic Energy AE1 MkII, Harbeth's, etc. ...for sure. Seriously, saying that a high-end headphone is "slow" is quite ridiculous. In comparison, any speaker driver (even that of a mini monitor) would be completely left out of any pretension of fidelity... And then again, I've never heard anything slow about my high-end Senns, or anything slower than those speakers. You're confusing yourself, I think. A "feelable" bass such as that of the HD650 might give you the superficial impression of being slow when it actually is being blazingly fast!

Maybe...but I have reasons to believe otherwise =]

I am talking in terms of transient response - there are cans with which it just lags behind a little bit, and the bass is not the area where it bothers me.

 

[Mulo]

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Originally Posted by donunus /img/forum/go_quote.gif With some music, the 595 seems fast because of its balance I guess but It does have its lag. It is noticeable with electronica

That is understendable; but it's be due to a certain small resonance of the drivers' housings affecting the midbass (if acoustic memory serves me well). It's not that the drivers themselves are "slow", not really... And of course this has nothing to do with the HD650.

I must be lucky to not be an electronica or heavy rock listener, 'cause I would need Stax for that

 

[Mulo]

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Originally Posted by MaloS /img/forum/go_quote.gif I am talking in terms of transient response - there are cans with which it just lags behind a little bit, and the bass is not the area where it bothers me.

It's a bit complicated... Attack and decay of notes are just as important; the "energetic" type would put an emphasis into attack, whereas the "romantic" type would put it into decay. You see, we're all subjective...

 

[MaloS]

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Originally Posted by Mulo /img/forum/go_quote.gif That is understendable; but it's be due to a certain small resonance of the drivers' housings affecting the midbass (if acoustic memory serves me well). It's not that the drivers themselves are "slow", not really... And of course this has nothing to do with the HD650. I must be lucky to not be an electronica or heavy rock listener, 'cause I would need Stax for that

Pretty much. This is the only music type I have issues in, admittedly.

 

[MaloS]

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Originally Posted by Mulo /img/forum/go_quote.gif It's a bit complicated... Attack and decay of notes are just as important; the "energetic" type would put an emphasis into attack, whereas the "romantic" type would put it into decay. You see, we're all subjective...

You should hear a good k340. It does both xD...

Although not my can of choice.

 

[Mulo]

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Originally Posted by MaloS /img/forum/go_quote.gif You should hear a good k340. It does both xD... Although not my can of choice.

Could be! But then again, I hear it has its limitations as well, not to mention the difficulties with finding & with driving it. Senns are the right compromise for me it seems. Alternatively I would go with AKG, like the K601 (I have an antipathy with the K701).

 

[MaloS]

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Originally Posted by Mulo /img/forum/go_quote.gif Could be! But then again, I hear it has its limitations as well, not to mention the difficulties with finding & with driving it. Senns are the right compromise for me it seems. Alternatively I would go with AKG, like the K601 (I have an antipathy with the K701).

Many ways to go. I am just chilling out trying stuff, seeing if I can find something that does it all (guess what ain't happening...prolly will just end up with a pair of custom IEMs). Omega 2 and HE90 are good if you can listen to them, its a good way to get a sense of how fast things can be.

 

[Mulo]

Then other subjects would come into play. On the one hand, a student's budget; on the other, self-regulation would prevent me from spending so much money on a headphone! And I hate IEM stuff (I think it is somewhat unnatural both in form and in sound, thus really good only for portable).


Btw, I hope all this discussion has been helpful to the OP