UE TF10, vs Sure 425, vs westone 3 - 4
Aug 15, 2012 at 1:09 AM Thread Starter Post #1 of 17
trothad2

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OK so... I'm looking for some new universal IEM's to workout with.  I have the UE TF10's right now and do not like the sound signature at all.  Actually I'm thinking about selling them.  I am currently using a pair of shure 215 but am looking into either the 425's or the westone 3 or 4 and would like help from the knowledgeable people of this forum. :D
 
Aug 15, 2012 at 8:13 AM Post #2 of 17
I my experience
shure give you more dynamic feeling and powerful bass.in other side, westone trend to the balance of three frequencies and clearly sound. ultimate ear is the hybrid from above of two brand and also the most specialist to me
 
Aug 15, 2012 at 8:23 AM Post #4 of 17
I love TF10, in fact at the moment it is my favourite IEM along with UE700.
 
W3 has been a dissapointment to me, not neccesarily the sound but the fact that I have never been able to get a perfect fit and seal
 
Aug 15, 2012 at 8:57 AM Post #5 of 17
SE425s are very balanced and neutral with slightly rolled off bass and highs.  They have a slight bump in the mid-range (which is pretty much Shure's 'house' signature).  They have very clear forward vocals without having the etched treble that the TF10s have.  In fact they are almost the complete opposite of the TF10s.  They are also very comfortable.
 
The SE215 are very different - when Shure brought them out it was almost as though they'd gone away from their normal signature in pursuit of a warmer "fun & bassy" sound.  The 215 is definitely not the typical Shure house sound.
 
Sorry - can't comment on the Westones - haven't heard them.
 
Aug 15, 2012 at 4:34 PM Post #6 of 17
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djvkool said:
I love TF10, in fact at the moment it is my favorite IEM along with UE700.
 
W3 has been a disappointment to me, not necessarily the sound but the fact that I have never been able to get a perfect fit and seal
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Are the Westone's that hard to get a good fit? ive had issues with the TF-10's where i cant get a good fit at all.
 
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brooko said:
SE425s are very balanced and neutral with slightly rolled off bass and highs.  They have a slight bump in the mid-range (which is pretty much Shure's 'house' signature).  They have very clear forward vocals without having the etched treble that the TF10s have.  In fact they are almost the complete opposite of the TF10s.  They are also very comfortable.
 
The SE215 are very different - when Shure brought them out it was almost as though they'd gone away from their normal signature in pursuit of a warmer "fun & bassy" sound.  The 215 is definitely not the typical Shure house sound.
 
Sorry - can't comment on the Westones - haven't heard them.
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I noticed with the TF-10s that they have very pronounced mids and that's basically the main reason i dont like them at all that and the clarity of them.
 
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terryleeterry said:
I my experience
shure give you more dynamic feeling and powerful bass.in other side, westone trend to the balance of three frequencies and clearly sound. ultimate ear is the hybrid from above of two brand and also the most specialist to me
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So you're saying that Westone are more "detailed" than the shure?
 
Aug 15, 2012 at 4:57 PM Post #7 of 17
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trothad2 said:
 
I noticed with the TF-10s that they have very pronounced mids and that's basically the main reason i dont like them at all that and the clarity of them.
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Wow - first time I heard the TF10s described like that.  To me they are very V shaped with emphasis on bass and highs.  Comparatively the SE425 are very flat with slight bump in the mids.
 
Aug 15, 2012 at 4:58 PM Post #8 of 17
Owned both TF10 and W4R. I'll say that the fit for W4R is much better than TF10. W4R mid is all so pronounced but not as much as Shure. The details from W4R is better than what TF10 can give you.
 
I personally preferred W4R over TF10 for overall listen style but if you focus on bass and treble TF10 might be the right choice.
 
Aug 15, 2012 at 5:06 PM Post #9 of 17
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brooko said:
 
Wow - first time I heard the TF10s described like that.  To me they are very V shaped with emphasis on bass and highs.  Comparatively the SE425 are very flat with slight bump in the mids.
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The TF10 is V-shaped. I guess he's sensitive to mid-range or he's not quite sure what he's hearing. 
 
Aug 15, 2012 at 6:47 PM Post #11 of 17
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trothad2 said:
I also might not have a proper fit I've always had issues with the tf10s fitting poorly. But I tend to prefer a vcurve with neutral mids
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Cross the Shures off your list then 
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Aug 17, 2012 at 1:50 AM Post #14 of 17
If you want quantity in bass, W4R won't be able to give what you want. In term of bass quality, W4R will be able to deliver. If you can afford it, I suggest FitEar To Go! 334. Bass quantity is a bit behind what TF10 can give but the quality that it deliver is phenomenal. To Go! 334 is somewhat one of the best universal IEM that you'll be able to enjoy in any genres of musics.
 
Aug 17, 2012 at 6:21 AM Post #15 of 17
TF10 certainly do not have pronounced mids, quite the contrary, perhaps a bit less than neutral, but neutral is still a word that would describe them fine. I'd say they pretty much match what you're looking for: "a vcurve with neutral mids". The same can be said of the Westone 3, only with stronger, but less muddy bass. The important question to answer is: did you get to listen to a properly functioning TF10, with a proper fit? If not, I'd say go with the Westone 3, they seem to match what you like, and they fit perfectly on most ears. If you did, and still didn't like them, then you're probably describing your tastes wrongly, which makes recommending a new IEM a diffucult task :)
 
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