Tube amp OK when listening sessions are impromptu, or short?
May 11, 2014 at 12:15 PM Thread Starter Post #1 of 4

qveda

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Hi,
I'm contemplating setting up a system in my home office. I expect to use headphones (e.g. Audeze) for more  critical listening , including closed models since my office is sometimes noisy.   I may be able to consider amps or dac/amps in the $2000-4000 price range.
 
Never owned any tube amps, but back in the day, I did love the sound of some tube pre's + ss power amp for greater 'emotional impact'.   In my current situation, I don't think I will have time for many extended listening sessions - some evenings I might only get to listen to 15mins. Would this be a problem for today's tube headphone amps ?  e.g. not good to leave them on, unattended for too long, warm-up time, etc.  
 
May 11, 2014 at 1:35 PM Post #2 of 4
I switch my SET amp on even if i am doing a 10-15 min listening session.    Supposedly they sound better after 30 min warmup, but 10 seconds after being switched on, they are more than good enough, IMO.
 
I dont bother leaving them on.   NOS 2A3 tubes arent cheap :)
 
May 11, 2014 at 2:08 PM Post #3 of 4
The only "tube" amp I don't mind leaving on and running idle is my Millet Hybrid.  I have 2-dozen tubes on standby/backup, and they all sound very similar and are easily inter-changed.  The 14.4V automotive tubes in this circuit last forever.  But even then I dont make it a habbit.
 
I have left my Earmax on/idle before a few times, but I dont regularly do that.  Amperex/Bugleboy, Telefunken and Sylvania gold pin tubes  aren't exactly cheap.
 
I DON'T leave the DV337 on unless I am listening to it.  The TS tubes in this amp are my most  costly.  One good thing is its a dual-mono circuit, with separate L/R volume pots.  So there's no easily detectible advantage in costly tube-pair matching from L to R.  Sellers almost always charge more for matching services.
 
Regarding warm-up times yes its one of the drawbacks, and it takes some getting used to.  Some tubes are microphonic and "unstable" (for lack of a better term) when they are not warmed up and have not reached steady state, so there can be (depending on the tube, amp, cans...etc) an element of risk listening to them while cold or leaving headphones plugged in while they are warming.
 
(IMHO) A well designed/stable tube circuit design should be able to handle on-off-on-off cycles of 15 minutes each... I mean it shouldn't "blow up" anything, nuke itself with bad "tube voodoo" in the process.  But its a given, that tubes DON'T like this kind of treatment.  If done repeatedly, its a recipe for shorter tube life.  I have NEVER heard/read cases where repeated power cycling is good for tubes in any way.
 
May 11, 2014 at 10:49 PM Post #4 of 4
Thanks for the suggestions and help. I'll try to get a chance to listen to some quality tube amps and see if they are compelling enough for me to 'deal with' properly.   
 

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