Transform your Journey - Sennheiser PXC 550 Wireless headphones deliver long-haul performance and a smart travel experience

Jul 26, 2016 at 9:44 AM Post #61 of 228
Do they have AAC as well as Aptx?  The Momentum 2 did not have AAC.  Thanks.


They do not support AAC, i checked with Senn UK Technical department. This is a shame if you have an iPhone which is AAC, but not APTX. Considering the high price tag of the Senn PXC 550 I am surprised Senn were not prepared to pay the extra AAC cost to include them. Are they seriously excluding the iPhone market which is obviously huge. Even if the next iPhone includes AptX which is purely speculative then Senn has still excluded all current iPhones and iPads. I was so looking forward to the headphones but disappointed about AAC.

PERHAPS SENN CAN INCLUDE AAC SUPPORT VIA A FIRMWARE UPDATE USING THE CAPTUNE APP - i do not know.
 
Jul 26, 2016 at 9:45 AM Post #62 of 228
  Long time lurker who never felt the urge to post on here, but having just bought the new Sennheiser PXC 550 and knowing the Bose QC35 quite well, too, let me just say that I can't really agree with intlsubband's findings.
 

 
Thank you for your review, as I said it may well have been that the sound settings were different and I didn't realise. I'm looking forward to giving them another try.
 
 
Thank you for your impressions. Please may I ask what device (phone) were you using? Reasons being: The PXC 550 does not have AAC support which is used by Apple iPhones and so might revert to SBC which is horrible. Unfortunately the current iPhones do not support AptX. The Bose QC35 supports AAC. If i used a Android Phone with AptX then no way would i buy Bose as Bose is AAC, but not AptX.

I SOMETIMES THINK THESE SENNS ARE FOR ANDROID PHONES WHICH SUPPORT APTX AND THAT BOSE IS FOR IPHONES WHICH SUPPORT AAC.
PERHAPS SENN AND BOSE SHOULD RELEASE HEADPHONES SUPPORTING BOTH APTX AND AAC JUST LIKE CREATIVE DO.

Bose supports: AAC
Senn PXC 550 supports: AptX
Current Apple iPhones support: AAC
Many Android Phones support: AptX
AptX HD launched this Summer and so far only supported by a few Android Phones (LG).

 
I was actually using my AK100ii. I don't really know much about bluetooth codecs and I don't know the bluetooth specifications of the AK100ii (the AK website doesn't seem to specify it).
 
It works perfectly with the QC35.
 
Jul 26, 2016 at 9:53 AM Post #63 of 228
Long time lurker who never felt the urge to post on here, but having just bought the new Sennheiser PXC 550 and knowing the Bose QC35 quite well, too, let me just say that I can't really agree with intlsubband's findings.

In my humble opinion, the PXC 550 sounds considerably more 'mature' than the Bose QC35, more pleasant / less harsh treble ("sssh"), more detailed / less 'coloured' mids and a more precise bass, too. It needs to be said that right out of the box, the "Club" sound mode was selected, which causes the bass to be bloated, indeed, particularly with bass heavy music. Once the sound modes were switched off (which is not done via touch control btw, but by pressing the small button on the right ear cup a few times), the 'real' sound of these cans is revealed, which, at least from my experience, is rather 'Sennheiser like'. The bass is very enjoyable if you prefer a precise bass, not necessarily headphones for bassheads (but due to the manual equalizing option via the CapTune app, you can pretty much tune it that way), there is a serious 'thump' in the higher bass frequencies, too ("kick bass"), particularly apparent in electronic music (e.g. Prodigy's Firestarter). Voices sound great, both male and female (Johnny Cash, Diana Krall). The best way to describe the sound of these cans is 'balanced', with a slight tendency to the warm side.They're never harsh, even with crappy loudness infested recordings like Metallica's Death Magnetic (ultimate 'harshness' test). 

Having played around with them for a few hours so far, I've just tested wireless mode yet, both with my iPhone 6 Plus and via an aptX supporting USB dongle connected to my desktop. Let me just say that aptX does make a difference. The sound is smoother, most apparent in the higher frequencies (e.g. hi-hats), it sounds absolutely brilliant! Just wish Apple would finally support aptX as well.

As far as the noise cancelation is concerned, I have yet to test them in a truly noisy environment, which should be tomorrow at work. A few quick tests were rather promising, though. The 'passive' NC on these is already pretty decent, the cups isolate rather well. 

As far as comfort is concerned, I have to agree with intlsubband on the headband, which tends to be a bit uncomfortable if you wear it tight. But the way I prefer to wear my headphones, you hardly notice the headband, especially because the clamping pressure on the ears is quite a bit higher than on the Bose. Fortunately, however, the ear pads are actually softer than the Bose ones, plus the pressure is rather evenly distributed, so long listening session aren't a problem. The form of the ear cups is a plus, IMHO, especially for the large ears of mine. The ears do get warm after long listening sessions, though, these are sealed headphones after all. All in all, I'd probably say that the Bose edge it as far comfort is concerned, the QC35 are a bit more comfortable than the PXC 550, but the PXC 550 are very good in this regard, too.

The PXC 550 are simply the better headphones IMHO. I don't expect them to best Bose on the noise cancelation, but I do expect some very good ANC that is close enough. They are a bit less comfortable to wear, too, but that's being picky, as they're both comfortable headphones. But the most important job of headphones, accurate music reproduction, is simply better. The well tuned, balanced sound makes long listening sessions enjoyable, never tiring. 

I'll test them for a few more days, but I think these are a keeper.



AptX and AAC are supported on Apple Mac Computers and to me they sound equally on par especially as you can manually increase the Bitrate when using AAC on the Mac.
I tested this on my Apple Mac with the Creative Soundblaster Amp that is both (AAC and AptX).

Unfortunately on iPhones and iPads only AAC is supported which is not supported on the (PXC 550 = AptX yes, AAC no).
 
Jul 26, 2016 at 10:06 AM Post #64 of 228
 
Long time lurker who never felt the urge to post on here, but having just bought the new Sennheiser PXC 550 and knowing the Bose QC35 quite well, too, let me just say that I can't really agree with intlsubband's findings.


Thank you for your review, as I said it may well have been that the sound settings were different and I didn't realise. I'm looking forward to giving them another try.


Thank you for your impressions. Please may I ask what device (phone) were you using? Reasons being: The PXC 550 does not have AAC support which is used by Apple iPhones and so might revert to SBC which is horrible. Unfortunately the current iPhones do not support AptX. The Bose QC35 supports AAC. If i used a Android Phone with AptX then no way would i buy Bose as Bose is AAC, but not AptX.


I SOMETIMES THINK THESE SENNS ARE FOR ANDROID PHONES WHICH SUPPORT APTX AND THAT BOSE IS FOR IPHONES WHICH SUPPORT AAC.

PERHAPS SENN AND BOSE SHOULD RELEASE HEADPHONES SUPPORTING BOTH APTX AND AAC JUST LIKE CREATIVE DO.


Bose supports: AAC

Senn PXC 550 supports: AptX

Current Apple iPhones support: AAC

Many Android Phones support: AptX
[rule]
AptX HD launched this Summer and so far only supported by a few Android Phones (LG).


I was actually using my AK100ii. I don't really know much about bluetooth codecs and I don't know the bluetooth specifications of the AK100ii (the AK website doesn't seem to specify it).

It works perfectly with the QC35.


Your AK100ii is AAC, but not AptX. So no surprise the Bose QC35 sounds better.
 
Jul 26, 2016 at 3:10 PM Post #65 of 228
  Long time lurker who never felt the urge to post on here, but having just bought the new Sennheiser PXC 550 and knowing the Bose QC35 quite well, too, let me just say that I can't really agree with intlsubband's findings.
 
In my humble opinion, the PXC 550 sounds considerably more 'mature' than the Bose QC35, more pleasant / less harsh treble ("sssh"), more detailed / less 'coloured' mids and a more precise bass, too. It needs to be said that right out of the box, the "Club" sound mode was selected, which causes the bass to be bloated, indeed, particularly with bass heavy music. Once the sound modes were switched off (which is not done via touch control btw, but by pressing the small button on the right ear cup a few times), the 'real' sound of these cans is revealed, which, at least from my experience, is rather 'Sennheiser like'. The bass is very enjoyable if you prefer a precise bass, not necessarily headphones for bassheads (but due to the manual equalizing option via the CapTune app, you can pretty much tune it that way), there is a serious 'thump' in the higher bass frequencies, too ("kick bass"), particularly apparent in electronic music (e.g. Prodigy's Firestarter). Voices sound great, both male and female (Johnny Cash, Diana Krall). The best way to describe the sound of these cans is 'balanced', with a slight tendency to the warm side.They're never harsh, even with crappy loudness infested recordings like Metallica's Death Magnetic (ultimate 'harshness' test). 
 
Having played around with them for a few hours so far, I've just tested wireless mode yet, both with my iPhone 6 Plus and via an aptX supporting USB dongle connected to my desktop. Let me just say that aptX does make a difference. The sound is smoother, most apparent in the higher frequencies (e.g. hi-hats), it sounds absolutely brilliant! Just wish Apple would finally support aptX as well.
 
As far as the noise cancelation is concerned, I have yet to test them in a truly noisy environment, which should be tomorrow at work. A few quick tests were rather promising, though. The 'passive' NC on these is already pretty decent, the cups isolate rather well. 
 
As far as comfort is concerned, I have to agree with intlsubband on the headband, which tends to be a bit uncomfortable if you wear it tight. But the way I prefer to wear my headphones, you hardly notice the headband, especially because the clamping pressure on the ears is quite a bit higher than on the Bose. Fortunately, however, the ear pads are actually softer than the Bose ones, plus the pressure is rather evenly distributed, so long listening session aren't a problem. The form of the ear cups is a plus, IMHO, especially for the large ears of mine. The ears do get warm after long listening sessions, though, these are sealed headphones after all. All in all, I'd probably say that the Bose edge it as far comfort is concerned, the QC35 are a bit more comfortable than the PXC 550, but the PXC 550 are very good in this regard, too.
 
The PXC 550 are simply the better headphones IMHO. I don't expect them to best Bose on the noise cancelation, but I do expect some very good ANC that is close enough. They are a bit less comfortable to wear, too, but that's being picky, as they're both comfortable headphones. But the most important job of headphones, accurate music reproduction, is simply better. The well tuned, balanced sound makes long listening sessions enjoyable, never tiring. 
 
I'll test them for a few more days, but I think these are a keeper.

Thank you for the review , i also  didn't like the piercing treble on the QC35 (store demo) .
I would love to read your opinion about the sound quality of the PXC 550 in wired mode.
 
Jul 26, 2016 at 8:30 PM Post #67 of 228
They do not support AAC, i checked with Senn UK Technical department. This is a shame if you have an iPhone which is AAC, but not APTX. Considering the high price tag of the Senn PXC 550 I am surprised Senn were not prepared to pay the extra AAC cost to include them. Are they seriously excluding the iPhone market which is obviously huge. Even if the next iPhone includes AptX which is purely speculative then Senn has still excluded all current iPhones and iPads. I was so looking forward to the headphones but disappointed about AAC.

PERHAPS SENN CAN INCLUDE AAC SUPPORT VIA A FIRMWARE UPDATE USING THE CAPTUNE APP - i do not know.


I agree completely.  It's surprising not to have AAC support on a high end bluetooth headphone at this point.  I'd be interested in Sennheiser's thinking about this.
 
Jul 27, 2016 at 4:55 AM Post #69 of 228
AptX and AAC are supported on Apple Mac Computers and to me they sound equally on par especially as you can manually increase the Bitrate when using AAC on the Mac.
I tested this on my Apple Mac with the Creative Soundblaster Amp that is both (AAC and AptX).

Unfortunately on iPhones and iPads only AAC is supported which is not supported on the (PXC 550 = AptX yes, AAC no).

 
I think that you're overstating the AAC vs. SBC factor on iOS devices.
 
AAC over Bluetooth is only a true advantage if
 
a) all / most of your music is encoded in the AAC format to begin with and
b) both your mobile device and headphones support AAC over Bluetooth.
 
The reason for point a) being that if your music is encoded in a different format, MP3 on mobile devices in my case, it wouldn't really make a difference if the Sennheiser PXC 550 supported AAC, because your music would have to be decoded to PCM and re-encoded to another lossy format (-> AAC) anyway, leading to quality loss. Plus, Apple iOS devices support AAC over Bluetooth at a bitrate of ~250kbps and SBC at ~345kbps, close to the maximum bitrate. Provided the connection is stable and high bitrate SBC is supported by the headphone (which the PXC 550 does), Apple iOS devices will choose SBC at 345kbps. According to soundexperts.org, SBC at ~345kbps is pretty much comparable to AAC at 250kbps encoding quality wise.
 
The reason why SBC has such a bad reputation is that often, a low bitrate variant is negotiated between both devices, either because one of the devices does not support high bitrate SBC (lowest common denominator), or due to compatibility issues. Particularly on OSX, low bitrate SBC seems to be chosen quite often due to compatibility reasons.
 
On my (Windows) desktop, all of my music is in a lossless format (FLAC), so there is just one step of lossy compression involved - FLAC to PCM (lossless), PCM to aptX (lossy). Since aptX is pretty much transparent, there is no audible loss of quality.
 
Finally, even the worst case scenario of two generations of lossy compression, as in the case of the iPhone (see above), is far less important for the actual sound quality than the sound reproduction capabilities of the headphones themselves. Or to put it differently: You're far more likely to hear distortions due to inadequacies of your headphones than compression artifacts. Headphones, just like speakers, are far more important for the actual sound quality than the compression algorithm used, provided that the compression isn't totally crap (which high bitrate SBC isn't), of course.
 
Jul 27, 2016 at 5:38 AM Post #70 of 228
  Thank you for the review , i also  didn't like the piercing treble on the QC35 (store demo) .
I would love to read your opinion about the sound quality of the PXC 550 in wired mode.

 
I actually tested the Bose QC35 again yesterday, just to see how much of a difference there was in wearing comfort. I seem to have had a more favourable memory of the QC35, because the headband of those wasn't really comfortable either. Plus, while the clamping pressure is a bit lower indeed, the ears do get warm, too. So all in all, the QC35 still has the edge as far as comfort is concerned, but it really isn't that much of an advantage, if any. My girlfriend has smaller ears than me and she loves the PXC 550.
 
The "piercing treble" bit was apparent again, particularly when listening at a loud volume. Don't get me wrong, the Bose QC35 sound very decent, they are very comfortable headphones and the noise cancellation is brilliant. But I prefer the sound of the PXC 550s. I also tested the Momentum 2 Wireless and I'd probably say that the sound characteristics are rather similar to the PXC 550. With my big ears, I prefer the PXC 550 for comfort, though.
 
I tested wired mode at home yesterday, both over USB (using the DAC of the PXC 550) and analogue cable, both active (with ANC on) and passive. Even in 'full passive' mode (analogue cable, no ANC), the sound characteristics of the headphones remain pretty much the same, they sound very similar to USB or wireless with ANC turned off. So unlike the QC35s, there is not a big difference between passive and active mode. Connected to the headphone jack of my iPhone 6 Plus, they are 'loud enough', too.
 
Jul 27, 2016 at 6:17 AM Post #71 of 228
   
I actually tested the Bose QC35 again yesterday, just to see how much of a difference there was in wearing comfort. I seem to have had a more favourable memory of the QC35, because the headband of those wasn't really comfortable either. Plus, while the clamping pressure is a bit lower indeed, the ears do get warm, too. So all in all, the QC35 still has the edge as far as comfort is concerned, but it really isn't that much of an advantage, if any. My girlfriend has smaller ears than me and she loves the PXC 550.
 
The "piercing treble" bit was apparent again, particularly when listening at a loud volume. Don't get me wrong, the Bose QC35 sound very decent, they are very comfortable headphones and the noise cancellation is brilliant. But I prefer the sound of the PXC 550s. I also tested the Momentum 2 Wireless and I'd probably say that the sound characteristics are rather similar to the PXC 550. With my big ears, I prefer the PXC 550 for comfort, though.
 
I tested wired mode at home yesterday, both over USB (using the DAC of the PXC 550) and analogue cable, both active (with ANC on) and passive. Even in 'full passive' mode (analogue cable, no ANC), the sound characteristics of the headphones remain pretty much the same, they sound very similar to USB or wireless with ANC turned off. So unlike the QC35s, there is not a big difference between passive and active mode. Connected to the headphone jack of my iPhone 6 Plus, they are 'loud enough', too.


@highdefinitely : Thank you very much for your efforts , much appreciated !
@Rosmadi Mahmood : will the PXC 550 be available for auditioning at Can Jam London ?
I'll be curious to find out how the PXC 550 compares in wired ANC mode against my current favourite , the PSB M4U 2.
 
Jul 27, 2016 at 8:04 AM Post #72 of 228
Rosmadi - I'm going to be leaving Sunday for normal 2 week lightning RTW trip.  Will make a point of looking for the PXC550 when I hit Singapore toward the end of the trip (I'll have a few hours to kill at Changi).
 
Curious as to how they will compare with my QC25.
 
Jul 27, 2016 at 9:13 AM Post #73 of 228
Cnet's full review is finally up 
 
found here http://www.cnet.com/products/sennheiser-pxc-550-wireless/
 
4stars compared to the 4 n half for the QC35s 
 
Its NC is below the QC35s whilst the sound fidelity is less than the momentum 2 wireless according to David Carnoy of Cnet. 
 
Jul 27, 2016 at 10:15 AM Post #74 of 228
  Cnet's full review is finally up 
 
found here http://www.cnet.com/products/sennheiser-pxc-550-wireless/
 
4stars compared to the 4 n half for the QC35s 
 
Its NC is below the QC35s whilst the sound fidelity is less than the momentum 2 wireless according to David Carnoy of Cnet. 

 
That's interesting, now i'm slightly leaning towards QC35 lol...  
 

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