Tom Tom GO 300 vs. Garmin StreetPilot c320

Dec 23, 2005 at 11:20 PM Post #16 of 25
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Originally Posted by ServinginEcuador
NavMan 520 is what he has Ed.


Doug!! great to see you back mate!! hope all is well your end
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([size=x-small]Sorry if this was off topic but had to say hello to Doug[/size])
 
Dec 24, 2005 at 2:04 AM Post #18 of 25
Another interesting (but pricey) option is TomTom's wireless Bluetooth GPS for Palm Treo's. Would make it so I could mount the GPS receiver further foward on the dash, and have the Treo and its display closer to the driver's position.

But I'd have to get a Treo first. Heheh.

I guess not until I get customer service to upgrade my service by threatening to cancel, or just simply jump ship to another carrier and then sign up as a "new" customer with Sprint again.
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Hey, is anyone getting GPS for Xmas?

-Ed
 
Dec 24, 2005 at 5:12 PM Post #19 of 25
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Originally Posted by Edwood
Another interesting (but pricey) option is TomTom's wireless Bluetooth GPS for Palm Treo's. Would make it so I could mount the GPS receiver further foward on the dash, and have the Treo and its display closer to the driver's position.

But I'd have to get a Treo first. Heheh.



-Ed



I have a Dell Axim with Dell's gps program bluetoothed to the "puck" that I place on the dash right at the base of the windshield. I set the view for 2500 feet and drive, drive, drive. I can see curves coming up, cross roads etc, because the receiver is getting the best signal and the pda is close enough to read.
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BUT, what is the difference in screen size? Does the Tom Tom have a nice big screen? What good is a closer screen view if the screen isn't big enough to afford a decent field of view?
 
Dec 24, 2005 at 6:00 PM Post #20 of 25
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Originally Posted by Edwood
Hey, is anyone getting GPS for Xmas?


My wife's getting a Garmin c320. They're $370 at costco.com, which was hard to resist compared to the $600 for the c330 and $700 for the c340 that were roughly the best prices I was seeing.
 
Dec 25, 2005 at 2:22 AM Post #21 of 25
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Originally Posted by episiarch
My wife's getting a Garmin c320. They're $370 at costco.com, which was hard to resist compared to the $600 for the c330 and $700 for the c340 that were roughly the best prices I was seeing.


Wow, that's a great price, and with Costco's insane return policy, even better.

I think the GPS is going to lose out to a compact clothes washer with the wife instead it seems.
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-Ed
 
Jan 2, 2006 at 7:24 PM Post #22 of 25
I've been using the C320 for a few days, and have some impressions to post. It works well, does its job and all that. But there are a lot of things that bug me, and overall I'm a bit annoyed. It was purchased as an upgrade from our Garmin Quest, but it turns out to be much more of a sidegrade.

Before I begin, let me point you to the very thorough review at http://gpsinformation.us/c320/c320review.html. That review is by very serious GPS users. What I'll add below is from my own perspective as a much more casual (but fairly easily annoyed) user.

The good: easy to use! The touchscreen really makes address entry fast and effortless. Routing is as good as on our Quest, but route calculation is much, much faster, and route recalculation is almost instant.

The hmm: the unit seems almost too big and the screen too big and bright for my midsize sedan. Others may well feel differently about this.

The annoying:

* 3D mode is not very good. The perspective doesn't match well with your real-world perceptions. At the routed/autozoom level of detail, a ramp exiting at a shallow angle doesn't really diverge from the road at the moment that you should in fact be exiting; you can see it diverging at the very top of the screen, but not where the "you are here" triangle is. If you zoom in enough to get really good readings on where to turn, you can't see very far ahead at all, and if you zoom out enough to see what lies ahead, your navigation's compromised (see the "triangle too big" problem below) and screen updates are much slower.

* 3D mode, continued: if you do not have a route selected -- if you are just driving without guidance, in other words -- the 3D mode's limited detail makes the display pretty unhelpful IMO. It's too bad you can't set separate preferences for display when following a route and display when unrouted.

* 2D mode: not bad, but I wish they'd use fewer pixels showing the width of roads, and instead draw names next to more of the streets. The Quest seems to make better use of its more limited screen real estate.

* In either display mode the triangle indicating your position is much too large, sometimes obscuring important details in your immediate vicinity. For example in 2D mode at the zoom level I like for in-town driving, the triangle representing the car is 400 virtual feet wide and 800 virtual feet long, and gets in the way of nearby streets. Yes, you can zoom in and zoom back out quickly, but I wish I didn't have to. Since the you-are-here triangle is always shown on the same spot on the screen, it's never hard to find and it doesn't need to be anywhere near this big.

* No "time to next turn" display, just "distance to next turn." Our Quest shows both time and distance to next turn, and I prefer that. I simply find it easier to relate to time-remaining than to distance-remaining.

* When it's powered on (which in my car, which has a switched lighter outlet, means every time the car is started), after its startup sequence it just sits at the main menu ("Where To?" "Show Map" and buttons for options and brightness). If I start driving without entering a route, it should, duh, just switch to showing the map. Yes, it only takes one touch to switch from the main menu to the map, but the main menu is pretty obnoxiously in your face until you do, and since I'm, y'know, busy driving, I'd like the unit to do the work for me.

* When dashboard-mounted (windshield mounting is illegal in California), you can't get the unit down closer than about 1.5" from the dashboard. I'd really like it down lower so it will be a little less prominent in my field of view, and also so it won't shout so loudly, "come steal me!" I might be able to disassemble the mount and switch a piece around to make it swivel down further, but I wish they'd built it with dash-mounting a little more in mind to begin with.

* There doesn't seem to be a way to load maps in increments other than a complete state: even if you're just visiting a piece of a state, you need to have room in memory for the whole state. Fortunately you can replace the unit's SD memory card with a larger one (and SD cards are fairly cheap now), so this may be more of a theoretical annoyance than a practical one.

* (Added 1/5) My wife just called to say she has a hard time seeing the screen while wearing polarized sunglasses. Ouch - I should have checked that at the store, as it's a pretty major issue for either of us. I wonder if this problem is common to all touch-screen models (just as it tends to be hard to use touch-screen ATMs with sunglasses on).

* (Added 1/5) I just realized this thing doesn't show the compass heading on the map. Our Quest does. This bugs me, though arguably you can do without it (if you're routed you theoretically shouldn't care, and if you're not routed, the "next turn" area gives current street and direction, like "Southwest on Main St.")

Overall, this unit is dumbed down in many ways from the Garmin Quest we've gotten used to. There are a lot fewer options and customizations. No via points, no backtrack-along-your-previous route, no altitude display, lots of other things. See the link cited above for a more complete list of things this unit doesn't do that you might wish it would do.

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I'll probably post an update in about a week after my wife's had a few days of relying on it for work.
 
Jan 13, 2006 at 7:38 PM Post #24 of 25
Here's the update, now that she's been using the c320 regularly for a couple weeks.

The trouble reading the screen with polarized glasses on is a major problem. Major, major. It may cause us to ditch this one and get a new unit, though we're not sure yet. Depends in part on whether we find her some acceptable nonpolarized sunglasses, I guess.

The "Valley Girl" solution - tilting your head sideways as you look at the map, which changes the angle of polarization to something less problematic - is semi-workable in the short term, but gets old really fast.

(Garmin's technical specs pages for the 26xx series specifically say "compatible with polarized sunglasses", while the specs pages for the c3xx series don't. So clearly they are quite aware of this issue.)

Other than that, the unit is completely satisfactory for her. Originally she was very skeptical of the unit's lack of vias (as in "travel via freeway X, not freeway Y"). But because the unit recalculates much more quickly and aggressively than our old one, she's decided she doesn't really need vias*: she can head for the route she wants to take, and the unit will "catch on" pretty quickly and generate a new route from there. (Our old unit, being slower, would try to save calculation time by calculating a short route back to the original route, rather than calculating a brand new shortest route to the destination.)

It's really too bad about the screen and polarization. Other than that we'd be pretty happy with this one.

[size=xx-small]*for her purposes. This is by no means a claim that vias will be irrelevant for other people.[/size]
 
Feb 9, 2006 at 1:46 AM Post #25 of 25
Another followup. Recently we rode with a driver who had a Garmin 2610. Its display looks absolutely fine through polarized sunglasses; it has none of the visibility problems of the C320. It has a much more information-rich display, too, which I think would be a fine thing for my wife and I, but probably a negative for anyone who's easily flustered by information overload.

If I had December's purchase to do over, I'd probably get my wife a refurbished 2610 or 2620. As things are, though, she's happy enough with her C320 to hang onto it until the next generation or two of GPSs rolls out the door.

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Separately from the above, I wanted to mention that the latest PC Magazine (sorry, don't have it here to post the date) has a very favorable review of the Garmin Nuvi. It's not up on the pcmag.com website yet, but probably will be soon. The Nuvi has basically the same UI as the C3x0 series (same GPS feature set as the C340), but in a smaller form factor and with stuff like MP3/audiobook support and language translators added. It also has a brand-new chipset that can lock on to satellites in about 2 seconds, instead of the 15-30 or so that it often takes with the units I have, and which can hold a lock even in Manhattan where much of the sky is occluded by tall buildings. Sounds nice! Though I don't do much navigating in downtown areas, I could see the extra sensitivity being a major selling point for someone who does.
 

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