[trains are bad]

Capitalism at work.

The national chain I deliver pizza for, does not sell pepsi products, alcohol, cigarettes, charcoal lighter fluid, or ice cream, but I have delivered all of the above at one time or another...for a price.

 

[PSmith08]

I tip 15% off the bat, unless the service was excellent, then it can go as high as 25-30%. Deliveries generally get 15%, or the change, depending on the bill. Picking something up does not merit a tip, as the wait-staff had nothing to do with it, and I assume the kitchen staff is on a different pay scale. If a tip makes up a substantial part of the salary, like for wait-staff, then I tip. If otherwise, under a reasonable assumption, then I do not.

If the service was poor, etiquette demands that you leave no tip and explain why to the manager on duty. The server's employer has a right to know if their staff isn't performing acceptably.

 

[TheMarsVolta]

What about tipping at hotels - bellhops and room cleaning staff?

 

[1911]

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Originally Posted by TheMarsVolta What about tipping at hotels - bellhops and room cleaning staff?

oh yeah..good one..i leave 2-3 bucks a day..too cheap?? i usually priceline 3-4 star hotels...
bellhops 5-10 bucks but rarely use them....

 

[imho]

"Tipping" is NOT a city in China...

My understanding is that TIP originated from "To Insure Promptness or Proper Service".

...as the saying goes, if ANYONE makes a living on tips...usually service industry...PLEASE tip them generously. MINIMUM 20%. I used to NOT tip and then met people who LIVE on tips. Trust me, these folks get MOST of their pay checks deducted for tax purposes and live on tips.

If you can afford to, please tip handsomely, unless they do EVERYTHING to p*$$ you off and then you can stiff them...

Here's how I usually tip:

Bar $1 PER drink (4 drinks = MINIMUM $4)
Buffets (at LEAST $2 per person)
Restaurants (20- 25%)
Haircuts (Supercuts 10%, Salons 15-25%)
Hotel maids (minimum $1 PER day)
Valets ($2-3)
Doorman ($15 - $20 for Christmas)
Postperson / Mail carrier ($15-$20 at Christmas)

*One last thing: PEOPLE remember the GOOD and the BAD tippers...trust me, unless you want ( ) in your food or drink, DON'T annoy the service people (especially if you frequent the establishment. Watch the movie 'Waiting' or 'Road Trip' if you don't know what I mean.)

Here are some guideline links:
http://www.hobart.k12.in.us/hhsnew/a...s/gt/ch10.html
http://www.tipping.org/TopPage.shtml
http://hotels.about.com/od/hotelsecrets/a/tipping.htm
http://msms.essortment.com/propertippinge_rmuv.htm
http://www.findalink.net/tippingetiquette.php

 

[spaceconvoy]

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Originally Posted by imho MINIMUM 20%

When did 20% become standard? Maybe my parents were just cheap, but I remember back in the day 10-15% was considered acceptable (ie, the 12% reference in Reservoir Dogs), but now it's more like 15-20%. Have things really changed, or do I just have a family of bastards?

Me personally, I round up to the nearest dollar over 15%. So if the bill is $30, then 15% is $4.50, and I'll leave $5.

 

[imho]

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Originally Posted by spaceconvoy When did 20% become standard? Maybe my parents were just cheap, but I remember back in the day 10-15% was considered acceptable (ie, the 12% reference in Reservoir Dogs), but now it's more like 15-20%. Have things really changed, or do I just have a family of bastards? Me personally, I round up to the nearest dollar over 15%. So if the bill is $30, then 15% is $4.50, and I'll leave $5.

Trust me, if you have EVER worked for a job that involves tips, you KNOW what it is like to get stiffed. If I can afford to eat a $40 entree I should be able to tip 20%, on the other hand if I am having a Wendy's Junior Bacon Cheeseburger for 99 cents, then I will be like, "what tip?".

I am just glad, I don't have to run around like a chicken without a head in a restaurant full of people carrying food. I did it once and said "THANK GOD, I don't have to do this for a living."

Unless it is going to break your bank, be generous. Most of these people can't afford luxuries like broadband, cable or cell-phones, not to mention Headphones...

 

[1911]

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Originally Posted by imho "Tipping" is NOT a city in China... My understanding is that TIP originated from "To Insure Promptness or Proper Service". ...as the saying goes, if ANYONE makes a living on tips...usually service industry...PLEASE tip them generously. MINIMUM 20%. I used to NOT tip and then met people who LIVE on tips. Trust me, these folks get MOST of their pay checks deducted for tax purposes and live on tips. If you can afford to, please tip handsomely, unless they do EVERYTHING to p*$$ you off and then you can stiff them... Here's how I usually tip: Bar $1 PER drink (4 drinks = MINIMUM $4) Buffets (at LEAST $2 per person) Restaurants (20- 25%) Haircuts (Supercuts 10%, Salons 15-25%) Hotel maids (minimum $1 PER day) Valets ($2-3) Doorman ($15 - $20 for Christmas) Postperson / Mail carrier ($15-$20 at Christmas) *One last thing: PEOPLE remember the GOOD and the BAD tippers...trust me, unless you want ( ) in your food or drink, DON'T annoy the service people (especially if you frequent the establishment. Watch the movie 'Waiting' or 'Road Trip' if you don't know what I mean. Here are some guideline links: http://www.hobart.k12.in.us/hhsnew/a...s/gt/ch10.html http://www.tipping.org/TopPage.shtml http://hotels.about.com/od/hotelsecrets/a/tipping.htm http://msms.essortment.com/propertippinge_rmuv.htm http://www.findalink.net/tippingetiquette.php

only 15-20 for the doorman at christmas? i was under the impression that at least one hundred was the "standadrd tip"

 

[imho]

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Originally Posted by 1911 only 15-20 for the doorman at christmas? i was under the impression that at least one hundred was the "standadrd tip"

Standard? I used to live in a "white glove" high rise in NYC and trust me, between the doorman, concierge, maintenance guys, there would be at LEAST 20 people...I was NOT going to pay $100 per head for 20 people. Most doorman buildings have minimum of 3 ~ 5 people working for various shifts.

I usually buy them soda, juice, cigarettes, ice cream, fast food or coffee money on a regular basis instead of giving them huge tips (gifts) on holidays (besides, EVERYONE is strapped for cash during the holidays).

 

[Jon.]

I tip whatever I feel like, and what I feel they deserve. I know they live on tips blah blah blah, but if it's that important to them they can do a good job. I'm not going to tip for someone's complacency.

And no before you say it, I'm definitly not cheap, I'm happy to give someone a little extra for a good job, heck it makes me feel good to do it.


Moral of the story, EARN YOUR TIP.



Funny story here, went to boston to catch a hockey game with my buddy, we left the "don't bother to clean our room" sign out, but the maid(s) came in anyway, of course no tip was left out for them, since we didn't want to go in the first place. So one of them ate my date square.

 

[The_Duke_Of_Eli]

I tip based on service. I've tipped all the way from 0%-25%. It is important to remember however that service people can be legally paid less then minimum wage because tips are part of their wages. Please support good service!

 

[pne]

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Originally Posted by imho "Tipping" is NOT a city in China... My understanding is that TIP originated from "To Insure Promptness or Proper Service". ...as the saying goes, if ANYONE makes a living on tips...usually service industry...PLEASE tip them generously. MINIMUM 20%. I used to NOT tip and then met people who LIVE on tips. Trust me, these folks get MOST of their pay checks deducted for tax purposes and live on tips. If you can afford to, please tip handsomely, unless they do EVERYTHING to p*$$ you off and then you can stiff them... Here's how I usually tip: Bar $1 PER drink (4 drinks = MINIMUM $4) Buffets (at LEAST $2 per person) Restaurants (20- 25%) Haircuts (Supercuts 10%, Salons 15-25%) Hotel maids (minimum $1 PER day) Valets ($2-3) Doorman ($15 - $20 for Christmas) Postperson / Mail carrier ($15-$20 at Christmas) *One last thing: PEOPLE remember the GOOD and the BAD tippers...trust me, unless you want ( ) in your food or drink, DON'T annoy the service people (especially if you frequent the establishment. Watch the movie 'Waiting' or 'Road Trip' if you don't know what I mean.) Here are some guideline links: http://www.hobart.k12.in.us/hhsnew/a...s/gt/ch10.html http://www.tipping.org/TopPage.shtml http://hotels.about.com/od/hotelsecrets/a/tipping.htm http://msms.essortment.com/propertippinge_rmuv.htm http://www.findalink.net/tippingetiquette.php

If I tipped like that I couldn't afford to feed myself, not to worry about whatever waiter is serving me. I don't believe a tip is mandatory sorry, if they feel so cheated then perhaps they should look for another job. There are plenty of other occupations out there that pay the same as a waiter/waitress, require the same experience (little to none), and is similar in difficulty. I've had friends b*tch to me that these servers spend the whole day on their feet and carry heavy dishes/platters. Well I worked in warehousing hauling 20-50lb cases, meeting quota, 12 hours a day starting at 6am in the mornings, and I sure as hell didn't get any tips. I earned just about as much as an average server does too.

If you believe a tip is just so that the person doesn't leave something nasty in your food, you should really think about the place you are eating at, and if you would really like to support an establishment that employs such negative people.

Also, if you were to tip $1 per drink at the bar, I'd imagine the bartender would earn more than a neurosurgeon in an hour during busy times.

Kirosia-I've never seen resevoir dogs sorry. I was not taking a line from a movie, but really do feel that tips are just a part of culture and should not be given out because of common practice. It angers me when people complain that a privilege they get should be mandatory.

 

[dj_mocok]

In Australia, we don't really have this "minimum" tip culture.
Patrons here don't anywhere near as good as Americans.

 

[LFF]

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Originally Posted by trains are bad I'd urge to people to tip their pizza delivery drivers well. With the price of gas, they (we) have gotten even more ruthless with nontippers than they were anyway. Trust me. It's good business.

I agree. I used to deliver. They never reimbursed on gas. Also, don't think we don't know or forget who doesn't tip!

For newbies - we had a list of non-tipers and a list of the best tipers. Good tipers had their pizzas in 30 min or less. Sometimes in 15. If they are good tipers the drivers DO put in the extra effort to get the order right and early. Also, keep in mind that drivers usually have a second job. And WE WILL screw over bad tipers on that second job when we can.

 

[SennFan]

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Originally Posted by trains are bad Capitalism at work. The national chain I deliver pizza for, does not sell pepsi products, alcohol, cigarettes, charcoal lighter fluid, or ice cream, but I have delivered all of the above at one time or another...for a price.

And how many of those people were completely wasted at the time?

Charcoal fluid? LOL. You actually got that for someone?