The Reference Pentode and Beam Tetrode Thread EL34, KT66, KT77, KT88, EL11, EL12, EL3N, EL35, EL37, 6550, 6L6, EL51, EL39, 4654, 4699, KT63, KT61, 6V6, etc
May 1, 2024 at 10:31 PM Post #1,516 of 1,528
Huh, I don’t know what the difference is between the 5b/254a and the 5b/254m. I’ve never seen the 254a before and I’m having trouble finding info on it. The 254m is one of my favorite tubes.

The 5b/254a is essentially a classic 807 in a small straight glass with a smaller top cap. Again I want to hear the difference between 254a and 254m if there's any.

Who said that? Langrex. :relaxed:

5B/254A Valve Tube = 5B/254M with a UX5 Base
 
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May 1, 2024 at 11:44 PM Post #1,517 of 1,528
The 5b/254a is essentially a classic 807 in a small straight glass with a smaller top cap. Again I want to hear the difference between 254a and 254m if there's any.

Who said that? Langrex. :relaxed:

5B/254A Valve Tube = 5B/254M with a UX5 Base
Well there you go, the 254m has a loctal base. The ITT tubes are later production but that base was used with old tubes. Must have been a last run of replacements for old equipment. I have 2 STC/ITT tubes, the aforementioned 5b/254m and the 5a/152m. Both are wonderful. The 5b/254m look like miniature tubes when compared to 807.
 
May 2, 2024 at 8:51 AM Post #1,518 of 1,528
How is this not beautiful. Those glasses are thick, much thicker than most tubes. One of the most robust beam tetrode I've held in my hands.

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Have you tried the GEC KT8C?
 
May 2, 2024 at 9:10 AM Post #1,519 of 1,528
Have you tried the GEC KT8C?

I thought that was a typo error. :relaxed: I've not heard of KT8C until now. Apparently the British Services abandoned it in favour of the American 807.

KT8C is cheap but I'm not going to try another power tube. I've 2 amps powered on now. One has EL39 and the other KT88. Life is already too beautiful. All I have to do is plug my headphone into anyone of them. :relaxed:

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May 2, 2024 at 9:12 AM Post #1,520 of 1,528
I thought that was a typo error. :relaxed: I've not heard of KT8C until now. Apparently the British Services abandoned it in favour of the American 807.

KT8C is cheap but I'm not going to try another power tube. I've 2 amps powered on now. One has EL39 and the other KT88. Life is already too beautiful. All I have to do is plug my headphone into anyone of them. :relaxed:

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I can totally understand that. I've got a couple pairs of them. Nice tubes when available.
 
May 2, 2024 at 9:17 AM Post #1,522 of 1,528
How does it sound compared to your other power tubes?

That's always hard to quantify as it's definitely circuit specific. They are very smooth, robust sounding tubes with a nice bottom end. In the near future, I'll do a more formal comparison between the GEC KT8C, GEC KT66 and Mullard EL37 (and possibly Mullard EL38). I think that would be a good comparison starting point.
 
May 2, 2024 at 9:21 AM Post #1,524 of 1,528
You need another adapter ! I've so many adapters already.


Yep, that's definitely the case.

My guess is that you're in pretty good shape with pentodes right now, I was just reminded of the GEC KT8C when you posted your picture of the GEC 807, so I was curious if you had compared them.
 
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May 2, 2024 at 12:30 PM Post #1,526 of 1,528
Yup pentodes and beam tetrodes. Far too many for me to enjoy now.
Right there with you. I have so, so many tubes with so many good sounding combos. For my birthday I finally got the n78 (and adapters sigh) that I had been intrigued by for so long. It was an indulgence though.

I’m 90% sure I will stick with 807(ish) tubes in my amp going forward. Of course I love my 12av5 and gu50 as well… I’ll probably sell the rest. Well, most of the rest… a lot of the rest. Well…
 
May 2, 2024 at 8:47 PM Post #1,528 of 1,528
The ability to use 12.6v power tubes is a big plus. GU50 is a russian copy of the German LS50 and 12av5 is dirt cheap.
The GU50 is really the only reason to get 12v output tubes IMO. I can’t think of any other 12v output tubes that are much cheaper or different to 6v tubes. Once upon a time you could get TT22 but those are gone for the most part. And if you do find some they are hardly cheap tubes. Some, like the 12aq5 and 12v6 are cheaper than the 6v equivalent but have far fewer options. Pity more of the European companies didn’t make 12v output tubes. GU50 is amazing but I think it needs a dedicated design to really take advantage of it. On the plus side, I think that running them at only 350v in triode means they’ll last forever:)
 

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