[Andrea]

You may know that lately I played with my Go-Vibe quite a bit. My PINT^fied Go-Vibe deluded me lately, when I rolled the AD8055 in, into thinking that I'd finally succeeded in making it sound natural and satisfying.

Extended listening diminished my enthusiasm and led me to the ineluctable truth -- no matter how hard you try to fix the sound, the Pint-like three channel topology, at least with the common AD8397/45048 and LM6172 chips in, will always produce a scheletric, dry, with an overly bony bass the AD chips, sound quality. Someone may very well like it; I think it doesn't do justice to my music, my headphones, and more than anything my ears.

So... now all my interest has flied back to my trusty (present & awaited) 2 channel amps - and lucky me, right now I've a new Xenos 0HA-REP arrived just yesterday to burn in & enjoy.

 

[IEATTEFLON]

You should consider building a PIMETA. I think what you're missing out on is stationary type amps. Perhaps you found your satisfaction limits with amps designed primarily for portable use.

 

[gtp]

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Originally Posted by Andrea You may know that lately I played with my Go-Vibe quite a bit. My PINT^fied Go-Vibe deluded me lately, when I rolled the AD8055 in, into thinking that I'd finally succeeded in making it sound natural and satisfying. Extended listening diminished my enthusiasm and led me to the ineluctable truth -- no matter how hard you try to fix the sound, the Pint-like three channel topology, at least with the common AD8397/45048 and LM6172 chips in, will always produce a scheletric, dry, with an overly bony bass the AD chips, sound quality. Someone may very well like it; I think it doesn't do justice to my music, my headphones, and more than anything my ears. So... now all my interest has flied back to my trusty (present & awaited) 2 channel amps - and lucky me, right now I've a new Xenos 0HA-REP arrived just yesterday to burn in & enjoy.

Andrea,

After having read many of your posts, I have been meaning to tell you that I think you should just buy a tube amp and be done with it. Tube amps would not suffer from the maladies that you seem to dislike in amps.

GTP

 

[Solitary1]

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Originally Posted by Andrea You may know that lately I played with my Go-Vibe quite a bit. My PINT^fied Go-Vibe deluded me lately, when I rolled the AD8055 in, into thinking that I'd finally succeeded in making it sound natural and satisfying. Extended listening diminished my enthusiasm and led me to the ineluctable truth -- no matter how hard you try to fix the sound, the Pint-like three channel topology, at least with the common AD8397/45048 and LM6172 chips in, will always produce a scheletric, dry, with an overly bony bass the AD chips, sound quality. Someone may very well like it; I think it doesn't do justice to my music, my headphones, and more than anything my ears. So... now all my interest has flied back to my trusty (present & awaited) 2 channel amps - and lucky me, right now I've a new Xenos 0HA-REP arrived just yesterday to burn in & enjoy.

I have just the amp for you. A classic design based on the venerable LM386 chip (circa 1985). This will give you that sound you so desperately seek:

I couldn't resist, it's closet cleaning time

 

[Andrea]

Solitary1 and gtp (gtp, I respect your suggestion anyway), my complaints were meant to be more specific (I thought I expressed them clearly enough, relating them to what I believe is the cause) than how you seem to have read them.

I'm sure it's a problem related to the 3 channel thing. Thus, it'll be sufficient to avoid these kinds of amps (casually, nearly only DIY...) in the future. Solid state is my thing (so has always been) -- but the good sounding variant

P.S. The AD8397 sounded much better (definitely more liquid) when I put it in my first Xenos 0HA-REP to make my Hornet

 

[Andrea]

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Originally Posted by IEATTEFLON You should consider building a PIMETA. I think what you're missing out on is stationary type amps. Perhaps you found your satisfaction limits with amps designed primarily for portable use.

I've also come to suspect this. Let's see how it goes with the incoming mSEED LABS "Faith AMP" ...

 

[spike33]

Andrea, stop all this cheap amp nonsense and get yourself a M^3! Your HD650 deserves it!

 

[Teerawit]

Correlation does not imply causality.

 

[Andrea]

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Originally Posted by Teerawit Correlation does not imply causality.

I agree. I think it's a sum of factors that results in the sound I hear. To put it differently, I doubt that an M^3 sounds scheletric

Oh, btw, I do have good expectations for my incoming new (and last portable) amp.

 

[Andrea]

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Originally Posted by spike33 Andrea, stop all this cheap amp nonsense and get yourself a M^3! Your HD650 deserves it!

I'll see if I can.

 

[Andrea]

Slight reversal of opinion...

I realized that that record I was listening to sounded thin for itself. And that I had a bit of a transient problem with me left ear that in some circumstances altered my hearing just a bit...



That is to say that I just changed record, listened again, and WOW did my customised Go-Vibe sound good. Perhaps it's not the most meaty sound in the neighbourhood, but good, good, good. My modding has succeeded (standard Go-Vibers & AD8397-LM6172 / LM6172-LM6172 PINTers, I pity you)

 

[rhymesgalore]

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Originally Posted by Andrea Slight reversal of opinion... I realized that that record I was listening to sounded thin for itself. And that I had a bit of a transient problem with me left ear that in some circumstances altered my hearing just a bit... That is to say that I just changed record, listened again, and WOW did my customised Go-Vibe sound good. Perhaps it's not the most meaty sound in the neighbourhood, but good, good, good. My modding has succeeded (standard Go-Vibers, I pity you)

Andrea, a suggestion for you: When you got the urge of posting one of your opinions, wright it down on paper, and wait a whole day. If it's still the same, THEN post it.
You don't wanna be brand marked as a flip-flopper...link
but i guess you already are

 

[procreate]

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Originally Posted by Andrea … I doubt that an M^3 sounds scheletric

What does "scheletric" mean? I tried the top two results from dictionary.com[1], but as they either pertain to zoology or eyes, I doubt that I'm looking in the right direction.

[1] http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=scheletric

 

[Andrea]

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Originally Posted by procreate What does "scheletric" mean? I tried the top two results from dictionary.com[1], but as they either pertain to zoology or eyes, I doubt that I'm looking in the right direction. [1] http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=scheletric

"scheleteric" = skeletal, sorry.

 

[Solitary1]

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Originally Posted by Andrea "scheleteric" = skeletal, sorry.

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