The NIKON Thread (Talk About Nikon Stuff here)

Aug 16, 2009 at 11:45 PM Post #3,646 of 5,895
I've done it before and chroma noise seems to be well controlled. It's only in the shadows where the noise will be most visible, but it works well with the midtones. Shooting at a lower ISO means an inherently lower amount of noise to begin with, greater detail and also greater dynamic range. I'll occasionally do so to avoid ISO3200 on my camera by shooting ISO2500/2000. It's amazing what you can pull out of 14-bit NEFs. Give it a try and see what you think!
 
Aug 18, 2009 at 2:33 PM Post #3,649 of 5,895
Love the new lens.
Now I officially have too many 50mms
I promised my partner that I would sell my 1.4 once I have a 1.2, but it's very hard for me to do so because then the middle one will disappear.

But the 1.2 is surprisingly very sharp and very contrasty at 1.2, even straight from my camera which is set to lowest in sharpening. Not sure why people say this lens is soft wide open. Can't wait to have this on full frame.

It is bulkier than 1.4 but I like it. The focusing ring is super smooth.

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Aug 19, 2009 at 8:02 PM Post #3,651 of 5,895
Seems like the recent trend is to purchase 50mm lenses.
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I haven't really shot anything with it, but so far early impressions are positive. AF is fast (what are others whining about?) and accuracy superb. I also love that the lens keeps its length constant regardless of the focus setting. I'll post more pictures as I take them.
 
Aug 20, 2009 at 8:31 AM Post #3,652 of 5,895
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Cool. The general opinion does seem to be that the 1.2 ain't that sharp at 1.2, but I've always wondered if that wasn't more due to user error with a very thin DOF than anything related to the lens.


I think it's the combination of user error, the lack of understanding that at 1.2 there is really very little area in focus, and being picky about the sharpness across all edges. Apart from that, the focused area is really good enough as long as you don't misfocus or shake too much.

But of course the sharpness of the lens at 1.2 is not like a lens that has been opened up to f/5.6, but then again I guess the main reason people purchase this lens is so that they can shoot at 1.2, so extreme sharpness is not the priority here.
I think I probably use this lens at f/1.2 95% of the time.
 
Aug 20, 2009 at 10:05 PM Post #3,654 of 5,895
Would you please try shooting at 1.2 in daylight? I'd be interested to see what you come up with. When I did that with my old 1.2, the contrast would flatten out really bad.
 
Aug 21, 2009 at 7:33 AM Post #3,655 of 5,895
Will do. Tomorrow is weekend I will bring my S5 attached with 1.2 only and post some pictures when I come back.

As far as I know indoor wise, the contrast is just fine, I'll see how it handles bright sunlight tomorrow.

By the way, was your 1.2 the 55mm version one, or the 50mm version one?
I might be wrong, but maybe with the newer gen 50mm 1.2, they use better coating to increase contrast in bright condition?
 
Aug 22, 2009 at 3:03 AM Post #3,656 of 5,895
I'm kind of happy with my 50 1.8
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Aug 22, 2009 at 7:04 AM Post #3,657 of 5,895
It was the older one.
 
Aug 23, 2009 at 5:38 AM Post #3,658 of 5,895
Okay, did some quick shots yesterday when it was sunny outside. The shots are all Jpg and handheld, and my camera's sharpening etc is at lowest, so please bear in mind that there are a lot of variables here. But overall, I think I am still very happy with the lens' capabilities.

The first shot below is the comparison of the shot made wide open and at f/5.6, you can see that there is a significant improvement over sharpness and contrast, but since I was handholding it and shooting infinity, so there is a margin of error here.

The small picture on the left hand side is 100% crop of the original. The half-naked, middle aged man in black sunglasses and a chubby lady look clearer in the f/5.6 of course.

If you see from the wide open shot, you can sort of figure out why some people say that this lens has this 'dreamy effect' when wide open, it is less contrast and it gives smooth transition between focused and unfocused area (not shown in the picture). I understand why people love this lens for portrait works, it gives you this 'hazy' effect but still maintaining sharp focused area.

For budget conscious shooter you can just get a 50mm f/1.8 lens and apply a thin layer of vaseline around the lens and you can achieve this effect too.

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The next 2 pictures below were also shot wide open, but this time the light was not as harsh as first one and it's not in infinity for landscape, so it's more in line of what people use this camera realistically. As you can see there is plenty of contrast even wide open and sharpness is pretty good too (remember my camera's sharpness is at lowest and these are jpgs)

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But as in fast lenses, colour fringing wide open is something you can't really avoid. It still has some fringing, noticeable when you view the image at 100%, but I think it performs better than my 85mm 1.4 wide open (I might be wrong though).

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But I think this lens is more designed for indoor or in places with less lighting, because they really shine in those situations. For shooting landscapes during daylight I think Nikon 17-35mm 2.8 is a much better lens for it.
Heck, you can even use the kit lens stopped down for that purpose but this lens is not for landscapes.
But for people, indoor, evening shots, etc.. it's hard to beat this lens. I think it will do great for flower pictures too due to the shallow DOF and smooth transition.

From the samples below you can see that it offers plenty of sharpness and contrast even wide open.

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Bokeh wise, It is considerably better compared to other Nikon 50mms of course. But it's not as good as 85mm 1.4 in rendering round point of lights.

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Overall the lens delivers what I expect from it, but with the price around 1.5 times of the price of newest Nikon 50mm 1.4 AFS, you really need to want the characteristics of the lens in order to justify one. With 50mm 1.4 AFS you get AFS and newest Nikon lens.
With this, you'll get excellent build quality, very buttery manual focusing, and better bokeh. So you really need to love working with manual focus lens and plan to shoot it mainly around f/1.2 to f/2.8 to justify this one over the newest Nikon.

Next week if I have the time maybe I'll try to do some night shots.
 
Aug 25, 2009 at 12:19 PM Post #3,659 of 5,895
Thanks for the shots! Very nice. Most people won't be able to justify needing the f/1.2 and the f/1.4G will be the better solution, but the f/1.2 clearer has its strengths.
 
Aug 25, 2009 at 1:53 PM Post #3,660 of 5,895
Yeah, actually if you think about it rationally it is kinda hard to justify, but I guess if I didn't get it, I know that I would always think about owning it.
Since I also love doing manual focusing I thought what the heck, just go for it. Even though in the process I have to sacrifice selling my 50mm f/1.4 Ais which I love very much (promised my partner that I would sell it if I got the 1.2).

But I will keep my 50mm 1.8 Ais though, because it still look so new and still with the box and everything, plus you won't get that much selling 1.8 anyway, might as well keep it.
 

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