The NIKON Thread (Talk About Nikon Stuff here)
Sep 21, 2008 at 7:27 PM Post #2,251 of 5,895
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Originally Posted by Edwood /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Internal focus is a big improvement. As having the lens element keep extending as I tried to get closer to a subject would be annoying.

-Ed



To me, internal focus is not needed, especially since the AF-D version didn't rotate the front element when focusing.

I'm lucky, because this allowed me to buy the cheaper, stronger built version. But if you need IF, then the AF-S is the logical choice.
 
Sep 21, 2008 at 8:32 PM Post #2,252 of 5,895
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Originally Posted by M0T0XGUY /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Obviously, the Nikon 105 is even better than the Tamron in that respect and many others; but for $700, it should be.


I have the Tokina 100mm f2.8 Macro and I'm very happy with it.

See ya
Steve
 
Sep 21, 2008 at 8:35 PM Post #2,253 of 5,895
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Originally Posted by Edwood /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Internal focus is a big improvement.


Auto focus isn't that important for shooting macro, because most of that would be done manually. It's important for using the lens double duty as a portraiture lens though.

See ya
Steve
 
Sep 21, 2008 at 11:06 PM Post #2,254 of 5,895
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Originally Posted by bigshot /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Auto focus isn't that important for shooting macro, because most of that would be done manually. It's important for using the lens double duty as a portraiture lens though.

See ya
Steve



Ed is not so much referring to auto focus, but internal focus. Internal focus is a feature whether you use auto focus or manual focus. I believe it means the front element will not extend when focus is changed. This can be helpful in macro work when you get close (2" or so).

On a related note:
My work with the 60mm doesn't get me so close that it becomes an issue, so I'm lucky. If you plan on doing macro to 1:1, or 1:0.5............... then I wouldn't even look at the 60mm. At that point the 100mm+ become a big help.
With the 60mm, you simply get tooooo close!
 
Sep 22, 2008 at 5:41 AM Post #2,255 of 5,895
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Originally Posted by Towert7 /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Wow, huge difference in those two pictures. Wonder what the zeiss does to portraits without stopping down much.


Wow, it looks almost like the camera shook on the Zeiss shot, to cause that weird looking flare. Are you sure that's completely a lens effect?
 
Sep 22, 2008 at 5:59 AM Post #2,256 of 5,895
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Originally Posted by Towert7 /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Ed is not so much referring to auto focus, but internal focus. Internal focus is a feature whether you use auto focus or manual focus. I believe it means the front element will not extend when focus is changed. This can be helpful in macro work when you get close (2" or so).

On a related note:
My work with the 60mm doesn't get me so close that it becomes an issue, so I'm lucky. If you plan on doing macro to 1:1, or 1:0.5............... then I wouldn't even look at the 60mm. At that point the 100mm+ become a big help.
With the 60mm, you simply get tooooo close!



Yes, what he said.
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Yeah, I'm still debating that one. I would like to have a Macro double as a decent portrait lens. Which the 60mm would be more handy focal length.

-Ed
 
Sep 22, 2008 at 11:23 AM Post #2,258 of 5,895
Hmm, not me. I got 2 50mm's already. Although it's nice to have a lens that will meter with my camera, but I think I'd rather spend the money on a new body.

If I didn't have a 50mm, I'm pretty sure this would be high on top of my list. I think they will sell a lot of these. But now I just feel sorry for Sigma...
 
Sep 22, 2008 at 11:35 AM Post #2,259 of 5,895
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Originally Posted by dj_mocok /img/forum/go_quote.gif
But now I just feel sorry for Sigma...


Lol why? They have their lens on multiple mounts.

I do not like 50mm much unless on full frame.
 
Sep 22, 2008 at 11:45 AM Post #2,260 of 5,895
Yeah because in regards to Nikon users, if they had a choice between Sigma and Nikon and the Nikon wasn't much more $$$, I'm pretty sure most Nikon users would go after the Nikon one.

Now they have to bank on Canon users a bit more I guess...
 
Sep 22, 2008 at 12:46 PM Post #2,261 of 5,895
Recently I purchased the following at an Ultimate Yard Sale event in my area.

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$20 (I think; can't remember)

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Both for $30!

Can anyone explain all of the adjustments on these lenses? I figured out how to focus, but there are a lot of other settings that I am not sure what they do. Both lenses have real heft and weight to them. They make the stock lenses from my D40 feel "cheap". Also, I got the flash listed above. It fits into the camera well enough, but I can't figure out how to sync it with the camera for a shot. The wire coming off of the flash goes to something that also looks like it can mount on a camera. Is there supposed to be a battery or something else with the flash?

Thanks.
 
Sep 22, 2008 at 1:40 PM Post #2,262 of 5,895
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Originally Posted by dj_mocok /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Yeah because in regards to Nikon users, if they had a choice between Sigma and Nikon and the Nikon wasn't much more $$$, I'm pretty sure most Nikon users would go after the Nikon one.

Now they have to bank on Canon users a bit more I guess...



Yeah I know what you mean. The price difference isn't that much. I'd like to see how they all compare.

edit: Just reading around, the new Nikon has no Nano coating, no ED glass, nor aspherical elements. So it could come down to the feel (AF speed, build, size, manual focus ring) or look (colors, bokeh). Maybe not so much sharpness.

I'm quite happy with my 50 1.8.
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and since I don't use it often, I don't see the need to upgrade.
 
Sep 22, 2008 at 3:08 PM Post #2,263 of 5,895
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edit: Just reading around, the new Nikon has no Nano coating, no ED glass, nor aspherical elements. So it could come down to the feel (AF speed, build, size, manual focus ring) or look (colors, bokeh). Maybe not so much sharpness.


It's quite simple to get sharpness without any of the above. The old 50 f/1.4 had none of the above and it was razor sharp. This isn't a hugely complex zoom. It's a 50mm prime. The simplest lens in existence. It doesn't require a complex formula.
 
Sep 22, 2008 at 3:21 PM Post #2,264 of 5,895
When I was out camera shopping the other day, the guy in the store advised me I might want to consider an old Canon film SLR instead. His reasoning behind this is that their lenses are much cheaper on the used market since Canon uses a new mounting system for their digital cameras. If I stick with searching for an F2, I have to pay premium prices for the lenses since I am competing with every other Nikon user out there. With an older Canon camera, most people who have moved to digital are looking to offload their lenses.

They didn't have any Nikon F2's in the store, but the Nikon F3HP's were all around $600 without a lense. Looked in the Canon section, and they had A-1's for less than $300 including a 50mm lense.

The only problem is, I'm not sure if there is a Canon equivalent to the Nikon F2. From some brief looking around, the following are on my short list: Canon F-1, Canon EF and Canon A-1.

Any ideas? Or should I go ask this in the Canon thread?
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Sep 22, 2008 at 3:48 PM Post #2,265 of 5,895
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Originally Posted by philodox /img/forum/go_quote.gif
The only problem is, I'm not sure if there is a Canon equivalent to the Nikon F2. From some brief looking around, the following are on my short list: Canon F-1, Canon EF and Canon A-1.

Any ideas? Or should I go ask this in the Canon thread?
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If you go the Canon route, those old bodies used the FD mount and can't be used on modern cameras without modification.

A lot of the lenses from the Nikon F series can be used with current Nikons.

Do you want to go completely manual? Nikon FM doesn't appeal to you?
 

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