[ufospls2]

Just double checking, TBH I found 40/50 in high gain on 13R ear splitting with both HE6 and sus so not sure I can help

He is likely running a fairly large amount of negative gain compensation via the EQ to cope with the boosts he is doing, therefore needing a higher volume setting on the amp than those not using EQ. Its a problem I've run into before. Just guessing of course in his particular case.

for the OP's question @Sebbai I would doubt any standard hifi DAC output voltage (ranging from say 2v to 6vish) is actually going to damage anything, but you might run into distortion/clipping if its too high. I'd shoot enleum and email and see what their max input voltage is (or your manual might tell you if you received one.) Alternatively, just try say 4v, and see how it works.

 

[jlbrach]

Just double checking, TBH I found 40/50 in high gain on 13R ear splitting with both HE6 and sus so not sure I can help

via high gain with my chord dave I find myself listening 25-35 most of the time with occasional albums a bit outside of the extremes out of the 13r

 

[all2ofme]

How much input Voltage can the Bakoon 13r/ Enleum 23r handle? Is 3V safe? Because I'm maxing the volume on low-volume songs, with my Ares 2 with 2.2v output to RCA.

(I'm running Oratory EQ with my HE6)

I would email Enleum and ask what the input sensitivity is on the 23R. Assuming it’s not listed on the site, of course.

For what it’s worth, I run my Bartók at 2V to the Enleum and on high gain I never even get past 12 o’clock on the gain control with my Susvara.

 

[Andrewteee]

I would email Enleum and ask what the input sensitivity is on the 23R. Assuming it’s not listed on the site, of course.

For what it’s worth, I run my Bartók at 2V to the Enleum and on high gain I never even get past 12 o’clock on the gain control with my Susvara.

So you’re also running the Bartok + Enleum? Nice pairing. I use it with the DCA Stealths. Nice trio.

 

[Sebbai]

It’s not really a issue, just some song I can max the volume, like

Running Up That Hill - Kate Bush


I’m also running pre-gain at -7db. Most songs I’m around 30-40 (of 50) at high gain. I have switched to the Mojo 2 as a DAC for now, haven’t run into any issues feeding the Bakoon 3V so far.

Have also sent a mail to bakoon and Enleum about input sensitivity for both units. Will post the answer here if I get a reply.

Thanks for the input guys

 

[Sebbai]

Holy crap, they both take up to 10V of input. Bakoon/Enleum is one powerful unit.

 

[Sebastien Chiu]

Darn - looks like my 23r has developed an odd issue in the Bias circuit, causing the headphone jack to crackle and pop non-stop.

It also seems to be causing issues in the back, where that same crackle and pop is coming from one channel.

Luckily, sending it back to Soo, and he will get it fixed next week.

Just when it was becoming an integral part of my set-up!

 

[SteveM324]

Darn - looks like my 23r has developed an odd issue in the Bias circuit, causing the headphone jack to crackle and pop non-stop.

It also seems to be causing issues in the back, where that same crackle and pop is coming from one channel.

Luckily, sending it back to Soo, and he will get it fixed next week.

Just when it was becoming an integral part of my set-up!

I'm surprised that you're using the 23R to power the Revel F206B. I've owned Revel speakers in the past and they usually like a powerful SS amp. Is the 23R driving the F206B well? I'm interested in your thoughts about this pairing because my friend owns F206 speakers. If it pairs well, maybe I'll take my 23R over to his place to try it out. He currently uses a vintage 50w/ch solid state McIntosh amp from the 70s. After listening to his system, I've told him that he needs more power. He'll think I'm crazy if I bring over a little 25w/ch amp to try on his speakers.

 

[rsbrsvp]

Any reports on the 23 with LCD-4?

 

[Sebastien Chiu]

I'm surprised that you're using the 23R to power the Revel F206B. I've owned Revel speakers in the past and they usually like a powerful SS amp. Is the 23R driving the F206B well? I'm interested in your thoughts about this pairing because my friend owns F206 speakers. If it pairs well, maybe I'll take my 23R over to his place to try it out. He currently uses a vintage 50w/ch solid state McIntosh amp from the 70s. After listening to his system, I've told him that he needs more power. He'll think I'm crazy if I bring over a little 25w/ch amp to try on his speakers.

It's the best amp I have on me so...why wouldn't I! I'd say yes, with a pre-amp. I use our Pro iCAN Signature, mainly so I can add a little xBass when I need it as the 23r and the F206bs are known to be a little light on the low end (especially for my tastes).

With a solid pre-amp, I don't go past half volume on my 23r and it does a great job driving them, in my book.

 

[carboncopy]

 

[rsbrsvp]

Has anyone compared the 23R to the CFA-3?

Also- I found a used (mint condition) 23R for $5000 Is that a fair price? It is the 2021 model with the older remote- but I assume the sonics are the same as the 2022 model.

 

[Alpexis]

The price has increased to $6,250 for US and €6,250 + VAT for export market

Does anyone know if/how the updated parts affect the sound on the 2022 model?

 

[normie610]

Has anyone compared the 23R to the CFA-3?

Also- I found a used (mint condition) 23R for $5000 Is that a fair price? It is the 2021 model with the older remote- but I assume the sonics are the same as the 2022 model.

I haven’t heard the 23R, but had a 13R before, and it’s a no contest vs. CFA3.

 

[rsbrsvp]

Technically- I understand nothing is a contest against the CFA-3, but I am concerned the CFA-3 could be a bit dry in the midrange vs the fuller bodied and sweeter 23R.