The iRiver iHP-120

[austonia]

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Originally Posted by Mr Do Arguably the added record feature is a bonus. If you want a full blown out recorder buy a 500 series iRiver. Or buy an apple that forces you to pay extra for extra feautures that could have been put in it from the start. So who realy did it half way. 6 in one and half a dozen in the other. It's a pointless argument.

how can I argue against such logic? lol

 

[kyrie]

The Iriver is indeed a half-assed player, if you put i that way...it does and is many things, but it does nothing exceptionally well. But as of currently, there isn't a single player in the market that can do as many things as the Iriver, and with greater quality. In that sense, the Iriver has its uses, and that's the reason I still have mine.

 

[austonia]

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Originally Posted by kyrie The Iriver is indeed a half-assed player, if you put i that way...it does and is many things, but it does nothing exceptionally well. But as of currently, there isn't a single player in the market that can do as many things as the Iriver, and with greater quality. In that sense, the Iriver has its uses, and that's the reason I still have mine.

uh, yeah, there are several players that can do an equal amount of tricks, and do them better. NJB3? Karma? etc?

ALL IMHO, of couse.

 

[wctkdman]

I'm happy with my iriver *shrugs* - it is probably because I prefer everything to be in filetree mode though. It does what I bought it to do, play mp3s (and listen to the radio, on occasion).

Anyways to answer your original question, yes you can brose with id3 tags (artist, album, etc)

 

[jmb]

I have to put my 2 cents in for the JB3 over the iRiver. Personally, I think Creative really hit the mark with the JB3. I would really like creative to do a JB4.

Best part is, you can get them quite cheap these days as well. I picked one up used in great condition recently for $120.00 shipped. For the amount of features it has that is a great deal. iRiver is very good, but it needs to become a bit more affordable.

 

[kyrie]

As for NJB3, I'm including size and portability as a feature, and the NJB3 is...well, out of the question for a lot of people, in that respect.

Also, there're plenty of things the Karma can't do. Recording? Optical in/out? FM tuner? Hardware reliability?

 

[austonia]

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Originally Posted by kyrie As for NJB3, I'm including size and portability as a feature, and the NJB3 is...well, out of the question for a lot of people, in that respect. Also, there're plenty of things the Karma can't do. Recording? Optical in/out? FM tuner? Hardware reliability?

i havn't found recording useful at all. zero. I can rip an album on my PC using EAC and LAME, with much better results. and with the iHP's 74-minute recording limit and blips during disk-writes, it's not even good for bootlegging. nice to have, but when is it useful?

optical in/out? sounds neat, but not any more useful than analog in/out. it's not like you're going to get better fidelity over optical. in theory maybe, but not in practice, this is not high-end audio gear. all headphone amps have analog inputs while only a very few accept digital in (built in D/A). Attaching to a home stereo? well, usually the optical in is dedicated to the DVD player allready, so you're back to using analog. sure, nice to have I guess, but I've never used it myself and still can't think of when I would.

Reliability? man, i've heard that argument against Rio so many times by people who don't have any personal expereince. Me and the my 2 friends with Karmas have 0 failures. I've even been trying to find a dead one for 3 weeks now with no luck (mod project) so they can't be all too common, ya know? F'n rumors.

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agreed, Radio is a useful feature for many people. of course so is on-the-fly playlisting, gapless playback, etc

 

[DigDub]

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Originally Posted by austonia i havn't found recording useful at all. zero. I can rip an album on my PC using EAC and LAME, with much better results. and with the iHP's 74-minute recording limit and blips during disk-writes, it's not even good for bootlegging. nice to have, but when is it useful?

for recording lectures. or remind myself to do something. thats what i do with mine.

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optical in/out? sounds neat, but not any more useful than analog in/out. it's not like you're going to get better fidelity over optical. in theory maybe, but not in practice, this is not high-end audio gear. all headphone amps have analog inputs while only a very few accept digital in (built in D/A). Attaching to a home stereo? well, usually the optical in is dedicated to the DVD player allready, so you're back to using analog. sure, nice to have I guess, but I've never used it myself and still can't think of when I would.

but its a fact a digital path will have less noise than an analogue path.

given a choice, i would choose the digital path over the analogue path anyday, even if only for a peace of mind.

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Reliability? man, i've heard that argument against Rio so many times by people who don't have any personal expereince. Me and the my 2 friends with Karmas have 0 failures. I've even been trying to find a dead one for 3 weeks now with no luck (mod project) so they can't be all too common, ya know? F'n rumors.

ipod and iriver owners are not rumor-mongers. yay! there is an agenda against the rio karma, ya know. *scared*

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edit: agreed, Radio is a useful feature for many people. of course so is on-the-fly playlisting, gapless playback, etc

good point on the radio.

lets see if iriver keeps to its promise of gapless playback.

 

[Sound magnet]

Is it possible to transfer files from player to player?

 

[Edvard_Grieg]

you can with both the iriver and the karma.


Kyrie, in regards to the optical in/out on the ihp i have heard that it is not 'wonderful'. Yes, in general on hi-fi gear a spdif (optical or coax) connection is preferrable to analog, however, the ihp is not 'hi-fi', and i have heard the optical connection is sub-par in that regard. Anyway, yes it is a digital path, but unless you have digital speakers it still has to be converted back to analog anyway