The iHP vs. iPod Poll!

[jpburton5150]

Yeah since my other thread was so popular it became hard to count who was for what so I'm making this for a more simplified view of things (not to say all the other ppl talking on the othere thread is bad!)

 

[Sweet Spot]

I think you know where I stand. But I'm not sure that the poll is really fair. The iPod has been around for ages, while the IHP series has only really taken off in the past year or so. There are tons of iPod users vs. the # if IHP users. It's probably natural that you'll get more votes for the iPod because there are so many owners at this point. Do you really think they'll go against the player they already own ? Never. (well aside from the dude who wants to throw his out his window...twice)

This poll should be for those who own neither, and for those who are looking into purchasing a HD player. This way we can see what's important to the lot of us non owners.

 

[jpburton5150]

haha yeah but then theres allways gonna be outside factors but oh well, is it possible for a moderator to merge these two threads? i think thatd be helpful...

 

[rafer]

ihp-120 baby!

 

[Sweet Spot]

Oh...you guys who vote should list reasons ..what suaded you towards the direction you took.

I think I've already done more than enough of my share of that already....

 

[rafer]

alright then.
Reasons i think the ihp is better (not ordered in importance)

1) Design - i think the ihp is built better more solid. the ipods scratch very easily and some say the build quality is not top notch. the ipod seems more fragile to me when compare to the ihp's magnesium outer body.

2) Features - the ihp has a plethora of features that the ipod does not have (unless u want to buy countless belkin accessories that will cost even more money). the ihp has fm radio, voice recording with real time encoding. it also has opitcal in/out and a now better leather case.

3) Battery Life! - the ihp uses a lithium polymer rather than a lithium ion that is used by the ipod. this means that the ihp will get close to 16 hours of battery life, twice as much as the ipods 8 hours.

4) Remote with an LCD! - the ihp's remote is the only one with a nice lcd which displays artist, title, bitrate. the ipods skimpy remote is pale in comparison.

5) Main lcd- i think the ihp's main lcd displays much more info and is overall better than the ipod's.

Size- although the ipod is still a bit smaller, the ihp is only a hair larger!

OGG Support- ihp supports OGG while ipod does not.

Cheaper too! $350 rather than $400 for ipod.

 

[blessingx]

This is a pretty useless poll. It's like saying Grado vs. Sennheiser.

Without conditions I'm not sure how anyone can vote unless they love/hate Apple or love/hate the iRiver. I mean there are different drive sizes and generations, different uses and when accessories would come into play, different OS's, etc.

 

[Sweet Spot]

Well, it's not really that useless. Not if you're looking at the poll from a perspective buyers point of view. The voters should add why they're leaning towards one player and not the other(s) This is where owners may correct potential buyers if any misconceptions are in the way...OR where the potential buyers can get a better idea about things they didnt' already know. The uses are various.

Like this one that I'd like to have someone answer for me: When buying music from iMusic in conjunction with iTUnes, are the files all AAC ? Because if they are, I wouldn't want to touch them. Why ? Because iTunes is useless to me, and if I need iTUnes to play AAC (theoretically, cuz I can use QCD player to play AAC files actually) then it's a waste. That's just one perspective. You may ask why I'm associating the two.

Simple. I've noticed alot of people saying that they're reconsidering buying an iPod becasue Windows now supports iTunes etc.... Well, just yesterday, it was said that there's a program that does the exact same thing for windows called filesync. Hence, no more reason to need iTunes PC users. (and hasn't been apparently for a long time)

 

[hempcamp]

I won't vote -- I haven't heard the iHP. But I couldn't be happier with my iPod.

--Chris

 

[Kelvie1234]

iHP - Optical out.

 

[phatty]

Originally posted by rafer

Size- although the ipod is still a bit smaller, the ihp is only a hair larger!

And if I may...


Here's the dimensions of both: (as reported on each mfg. websites)

Ipod 20gb - 2.4 x 4.1 x .62 inches/5.6 ounces

iHP-120 - 2.4 x 4.1 x .75 inches/5.6 ounces

So, as we see the iHP-120 is for all intents and purposes the same size as the Ipod. I've also done a little research on the third party cases for the Ipod and found that many would work nicely with the iHP considering the remote. Take a look at this one for instance and it includes a belt clip.

Pod Protector

 

[Lilac_Wine]

I just purchased a Gen 3 20 gig iPod. The windows release of iTunes pushed the iPod over the top for me. I really like the automatic syncing. The ihp has a lot of great features, but i do not need any of them. I just wanted a straight forward mp3 player. I currently have around 40 gigs of music on my computer and i am not done ripping cds. i have not even started ripping my vinyl. I thought about getting a bigger iPod, but it seems that iTunes will make moving music to the iPod a breeze. We'll see.

 

[MacDEF]

I agree with blessingx in many ways. Of the people who criticize the iPod, some have good points, but many are lame-o Apple haters who criticize anything Apple.
(There are also iPod users who will not criticize the iPod, no matter what.) So beware of "recommendations" in threads like these.



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Originally posted by Sweet Spot Oh...you guys who vote should list reasons ..what suaded you towards the direction you took. I think I've already done more than enough of my share of that already....

You think?

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Originally posted by rafer the ipods scratch very easily and some say the build quality is not top notch. the ipod seems more fragile to me when compare to the ihp's magnesium outer body.

I'll give you the scratching, but the iPod is a brick, and with no moving parts besides the hard drive, the chances of something breaking go way down.


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2) Features - the ihp has a plethora of features that the ipod does not have (unless u want to buy countless belkin accessories that will cost even more money). the ihp has fm radio, voice recording with real time encoding. it also has opitcal in/out and a now better leather case.

The iPod has lots of built-in features the iHP doesn't. It also has more potential because of its guts. On the other hand, the iHP has an FM tuner and optical in/out. What it comes down to isn't "number of features," but which features you'll actually use on a daily basis.

I also find it quite odd the people criticize the iPod because it has more available accessories

The fact that you can buy voice recorders, docking speakers, media readers, FM transmitters, external battery packs, etc., etc., etc. is a plus.

You also have to factor in the other things the iPod can do with its stock software:

Auto-syncing photo storage (you can use it for this without the Belkin adapter)
Bootable FireWire hard drive
Contacts
Calendar
Formatted notes
Alarm clock
Games

Finally, one "feature" many people forget is iTunes. I'd personally pay $50-$100 more for an MP3 player just to get the kind of seamless syncing and song management provided by iTunes.


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4) Remote with an LCD! - the ihp's remote is the only one with a nice lcd which displays artist, title, bitrate. the ipods skimpy remote is pale in comparison.

I agree -- the iPod remote needs an LCD and a jog dial. (Although who gives a rat's butt if the LCD shows the bitrate?)


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5) Main lcd- i think the ihp's main lcd displays much more info and is overall better than the ipod's.

I disagree. The iPod's display is more usable, to me.


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OGG Support- ihp supports OGG while ipod does not.

The iPod supports AAC while the iHP doesn't. No big deal either way, except that the iHP can't use iMS music.

 

[bangraman]

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Originally posted by Sweet Spot Well, it's not really that useless. Not if you're looking at the poll from a perspective buyers point of view. The voters should add why they're leaning towards one player and not the other(s) This is where owners may correct potential buyers if any misconceptions are in the way...OR where the potential buyers can get a better idea about things they didnt' already know. The uses are various. Like this one that I'd like to have someone answer for me: When buying music from iMusic in conjunction with iTUnes, are the files all AAC ? Because if they are, I wouldn't want to touch them. Why ? Because iTunes is useless to me, and if I need iTUnes to play AAC (theoretically, cuz I can use QCD player to play AAC files actually) then it's a waste. That's just one perspective. You may ask why I'm associating the two. Simple. I've noticed alot of people saying that they're reconsidering buying an iPod becasue Windows now supports iTunes etc.... Well, just yesterday, it was said that there's a program that does the exact same thing for windows called filesync. Hence, no more reason to need iTunes PC users. (and hasn't been apparently for a long time)

You're barking up completely the wrong tree in this respect... I don't know where you get your 'facts' from but instead of forever arguing about the iPod, may I suggest you actually get one or stop interjecting in a faux-informed manner on these forums about this? It's rather annoying to see somewhat convincingly written posts for newbies which has no relevance whatsoever from the point of view of someone who has

actually used one

, but is rather a collection of speculation, wrong assumptions and 'facts' gleaned from around the web.

 

[rafer]

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Originally posted by MacDEF I'll give you the scratching, but the iPod is a brick, and with no moving parts besides the hard drive, the chances of something breaking go way down.

i hope both the ipod and the ihp are built like bricks for the amount of $$ they cost. i just think that if your gonna shell out all that cabbage for a player, that they should make it so it doesnt scratch as easily. it can be done while still looking nice.



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The iPod has lots of built-in features the iHP doesn't. It also has more potential because of its guts. On the other hand, the iHP has an FM tuner and optical in/out. What it comes down to isn't "number of features," but which features you'll actually use on a daily basis.

i agree completely. i comes down to what you will need and waht you will use. if i just wanted something just to play music i would probably go with the zen. i like like ihp because i DO listen to the radio and i think the mic and the line out/in will come in very handy.

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I also find it quite odd the people criticize the iPod because it has more available accessories The fact that you can buy voice recorders, docking speakers, media readers, FM transmitters, external battery packs, etc., etc., etc. is a plus.

its 3rd party support is a plus for the ipod, but what i dont like is in order to get these extra features i would need to pay more money, and significant amounts of it too. i mean for a $400 player i would like atleast like a FM radio included.

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You also have to factor in the other things the iPod can do with its stock software: Auto-syncing photo storage (you can use it for this without the Belkin adapter) Bootable FireWire hard drive Contacts Calendar Formatted notes Alarm clock Games

i think those features are nice. but for me the only one i would really use is the alarm clock for on the road. i mean my cell phone has contacts and stuff. i would rarely would use a calender or play those games. i think it comes down to what you want and what you would use, and weigh that against the price and competition.


and i like discussions like this, i wish we can discuss these things without getting angry or mad at anyone. so everyone just CHILL