The Ethernet cables, Switches and Network related sound thread. Share your listening experience only.

[OCC7N]

The SFP fiber port can be used as both an input and output port?

Use it for the router->. optical solution/SFP of SW6. [Use either RJ45 or SFP. Not both]

https://www.head-fi.org/threads/the...istening-experience-only.913239/post-18524427

Using SFP and fiber cables do not come with advantages only....balance between copper/RJ45 length and fiber cables(10meters minimum)

But the reward is big when you match your system

 

[agisthos]

I currently have the LHY SW-6 and my next switch upgrade was going to be the Nordost QNET + Source power supply. But its quite expensive.

Matrix Audio has recently released 2 switches, both a ground up custom design, not a repurposed commercial switch. The Matrix SS-1 Pro is the higher end mode, $1700 USD. This switch has gotten no traction so far in audio forums which discuss network gear, probably because Matrix Audio are really only known among the headphone crowd, not stereo hi-fi.

Only one review so far. Sandu on Soundnews compared it to the LHY SW-10 and his reference, the Ansuz D3

https://soundnews.net/reviews/acces...o-ethernet-switches-review-can-bits-do-beats/

He claims its much better than the LHY, and comes close to the D3 for natural realism.

 

[agisthos]

Anyway I'm getting one soon, so will let you guys know how it compares to LHY SW-6. The chassis build quality is off the charts for a sub 2k product.

 

[agisthos]

The gap between LHY SW-6 and the Matrix SS-1 Pro is larger than going from a generic Netgear switch to SW-6.
Its a huge upgrade. Surprising. You get used to incremental upgrades most of the time, but this one seems very good.

It's early days, and no break in, but I can say if you are thinking about getting one don't hesitate.

 

[Tubewin]

Back to jcat xe network card (powered by the optimo 3 duo to the psm156) to uptone etherregen (powered by the ferrum hypsos to the psm156) to the standard internet switch and the standard modem (both router and modem connected to the ps audio stellar powerplant 3). The LHY products, in the end, didn't synergize with my system enough.

 

[pompon]

Back to jcat xe network card (powered by the optimo 3 duo to the psm156) to uptone etherregen (powered by the ferrum hypsos to the psm156) to the standard internet switch and the standard modem (both router and modem connected to the ps audio stellar powerplant 3). The LHY products, in the end, didn't synergize with my system enough.

Switch bring coloration to the music.
Wires rj45 bring coloration too.
So the mix of wires in the path + switch give a specific sound.

 

[cpurdy]

Switch bring coloration to the music.
Wires rj45 bring coloration too.
So the mix of wires in the path + switch give a specific sound.

No.
No.
And no.

 

[markush8]

As someone who has gone the fibre way including top of the line line FMC, linear power supply, power cord and SFPs which is very cost intense and provided improvements, the overall better performance can be achieved via a Network Acoustics ENO2 or Muon Pro streaming system.

 

[blackromek]

yesterday I received Lhy sw6 how many hours of work does it need to show 100% of possibilities

 

[phoneslave86]

yesterday I received Lhy sw6 how many hours of work does it need to show 100% of possibilities

Technically I would give it 30-40 days (1k hours) with nothing unplugged recently and will all cables burned in to claim fully assessing it but you may not hear anything change after a few hundred hours I don't sometimes and sometimes I do with these ddc, switches and clocks. A full 500-600 hours will probably knock it out or least the first major break in with some slight improvements eventually later on. If system is more revealing it makes this easier to detect

On a side note I'm probably a bit skewed as I use a master clock that takes 35 days to fully stabilize and it effects everything as it changes over time if has been unplugged even one time but I swear break in does go to 1k hours on things sure seems like it several times.

It is my peace of mind number to count it ok to assess at 1k hours that is for sure. That makes it to where I don't have to question it and that's what I like is being sure and not questioning the matter as thats what's most important and all one can do to be certain it is safe to assess the equipment and this question and that issue is fully eliminated at that point in my belief system. It's really important not to be skewed about the equipment and very tricky to sort out in the chain these answers at times. At 1k hours is peace of mind for me, it really can matter and usually something else is breaking in or effecting the sound so it's nice to really give it a month or two to assess also emotionally. 100 percent level assessment for me is usually around 2 months so best to enjoy the show along the way the most one can!

 

[ChJL]

As someone who has gone the fibre way including top of the line line FMC, linear power supply, power cord and SFPs which is very cost intense and provided improvements, the overall better performance can be achieved via a Network Acoustics ENO2 or Muon Pro streaming system.

so you abandoned that fibre set up and went for a passive filter? which one of those NA "streaming systems"? In addition to a switch or directley from router - passive filter - streamer?

 

[markush8]

so you abandoned that fibre set up and went for a passive filter? which one of those NA "streaming systems"? In addition to a switch or directley from router - passive filter - streamer?

Exactly! I have tested so many different setups and variables. From switches like Etherregen, the mentioned top of the line FMC approach - but it turned out a single ENO2 streaming system outperformed the ER s well as ER & FMC. And furthermore is far more simple.
So it’s router - ENO2 - streamer.

I would say the ENO2 is better than a switch up to 2k and definitely sounding more natural etc. Just give it a try - there is also a money back guarantee.

The only necessary use case I see is when there is a huge physical difference to cover than you are better up with a FMC connection.

 

[ChJL]

Exactly! I have tested so many different setups and variables. From switches like Etherregen, the mentioned top of the line FMC approach - but it turned out a single ENO2 streaming system outperformed the ER s well as ER & FMC. And furthermore is far more simple.
So it’s router - ENO2 - streamer.

I would say the ENO2 is better than a switch up to 2k and definitely sounding more natural etc. Just give it a try - there is also a money back guarantee.

The only necessary use case I see is when there is a huge physical difference to cover than you are better up with a FMC connection.

yeah some of these "solutions" like switches with external clock input, or crazy expensive ones, fiber set ups and even routers with clock input seem a bit over the top for me or my use case. Since I only need one device, my streamer, connected via Ethernet, I might try NA and see if I'll keep it and/or sell that switch...

Did you go for their lan cable/"system" or just the filter with modest cables?

 

[markush8]

yeah some of these "solutions" like switches with external clock input, or crazy expensive ones, fiber set ups and even routers with clock input seem a bit over the top for me or my use case. Since I only need one device, my streamer, connected via Ethernet, I might try NA and see if I'll keep it and/or sell that switch...

Did you go for their lan cable/"system" or just the filter with modest cables?

Absolutely! And what many don't take into account that those additional power supplies and devices further add noise into the overall chain/system.

Great choice. Yes I went for the system (cable + filter) which is great value as for example the ENO2 cable easily outperformed a AudioQuest Diamond.

 

[neohb]

Has anyone already purchased the new LHY devices: AS8 Pro, AS6, Networkfilter?

Edit:

The new AS8 Pro, LHY's flagship audio HIFI switch, with an optically isolated OCXO clock (2.5G 10G),
has been repeatedly refined and optimized for over a year. Tigerfish Audio's flagship AS8 Pro switch is finally officially released! 1. The AS8 Pro is divided into three main parts: 2.5G main switch + 1G audio quiet zone + precision clock with extremely low phase noise. An all-in-one design, all functions are integrated and independent of each other. 2. The 2.5G main switching section and the 1G audio idle section are connected via the integrated single-mode dual fiber and communicate with each other to achieve internal photoelectric isolation, providing the purest network environment for data transmission. 3. The clock section uses SC-cut OCXO with a near-phase noise of better than -110 dBc, combined with a high-performance PLL clock chip to provide the most precise and stable synchronous clock signal for the two switching sections. It is also equipped with BNC connectors for clock input and output to facilitate further upgrades for customers. 4. The power supply section includes two imported 50VA Porcupine Ring bulls and multiple uV-level fully linear DC regulated power supplies. AS8 Pro is a true fully linear power supply, and the entire device has no DC2DC circuit. 5. The chassis is constructed from a single piece of aviation aluminum and hollowed out using CNC precision machining. Compared with conventionally assembled aluminum alloy chassis, the resonance of the entire machine is significantly reduced and the chassis rigidity is improved. Circuits with different functions can be isolated from each other to prevent interference. 6. The independent ground terminal and ground switch are specially designed for audiophiles with extreme requirements, enabling star-shaped grounding between multiple devices in the entire audio system to prevent interference and noise caused by ground loops.

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