The Ethernet cables, Switches and Network related sound thread. Share your listening experience only.

Jan 20, 2023 at 12:21 AM Post #1,141 of 2,527
Just adding my comment from Gustard thread here as I think it belongs to this thread

I have TeraDak T-S 211, Ethernet Media Converter, with me for some time but reason why I didn't put any feedback here as I was thinking of doing an A-B comparison with router however as soon as I got this unit I connected it to my streamer and donated the long STP cable, which I was running, at office. I should have kept it for few more days with me to be able to do comparison but I have an overall idea of the device now since I have been using it for close to 2 weeks.

My Headphone rig is

Roon on NUC -> Metrum Ambre -> Sonnet Pasithea DAC(via I2S) -> EC ZDS -> HD800s
and I am low level listener i.e I never crank it up with headphones.

Background -
I never had any issue with my chain. It is as musical as it can get and 800s is just magical out of ZDS. No brightness at all. I know strange thing to say for 800s. One of the reason for me to get FMC is to isolate my listening gear from router and hence from any kind of surge. As you recall around end of Dec we had storm in NY and although I did switch off and plugged out my audio gear but I forgot to take out ethernet cable and switching off router is not an option so I left my system vulnerable. Although nothing happened this time but was luckily that there was no lightening or power surge and what better way to do it then to introduce Optical cable. This was my no.1 reason to get FMC. Since I was already satisfied with how my system sounded so all I was hoping for was no degradation in SQ and that would be enough for me.

Inside Box-
So TeraDak came with a FMC as well and Fiber Optic SC-SC cable (although you can ask for SC-LC cable during order) however I already had mine delivered from Amazon as I needed more then 3m that TeraDak sent me. So if you need 3m or less then one delivery from TeraDak will have everything you need. I ordered mine with OCXO clock as I am believer of good clock in Audio. However it may be an overkill for me as my Streamer Ambre anyways re-clock signal with high quality clock but a jitter free signal being fed to streamer is always good and TeraDak is priced right as its is FMC + Clock + Transformer in built with power conditioning to reduce EMI etc.
Do note I am using 5v LPS from UpTone Audio to power the FMC on dirty side however TeraDak said there was no need to use LPS at dirty side but I had one unused ,which I forgot about and found few days back, so I used it.

Sound Impression -
Now coming to sound, as soon as I played first song , I was happy. There was no brightness at all and hence this new chain didn't bring any brightness with it. However I didn't get any day and night difference in SQ and it may be because the DAC and streamer are already good in rejecting any kind of noise and jitter. But over a period of time I notice one thing and that is background instruments have more weight in their tone and hence music sounds more musical :) and sometime it feels background instruments are coming out of some void. No noise at all. At least in my chain the sound is never bright. Sound is wide and deep with good layering, not something TeraDak brought in my chain but something TeraDak didn't take away as well. I wish I could A-B now. May be will order STP cable from Amazon.
Although I must add before adding FMC in my chain I did experience my system sounding bright every now and then. May be due to power or may be due to my mood but since getting power conditioner and adding FMC, I never have this experience of bright sound so it was something to do with power during storm and busy days. Now if dirty power was coming from ethernet then at least FMC is getting rid off it.

Final Suggestion-

It's priced right. $251 with slow shipping, OCXO clock and Optical fiber cable. It will have have an impact in system with streamer not great in rejecting noise via ethernet and with suboptimal clock.
 
Jan 20, 2023 at 6:26 PM Post #1,142 of 2,527
Think this has not been posted here yet. The new LHY Audio SW-10 Switch: https://www.beatechnik.com/lhy-audio-sw-10
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Jan 20, 2023 at 6:29 PM Post #1,143 of 2,527
Jan 20, 2023 at 7:24 PM Post #1,144 of 2,527
He he he.....Just placing some news bro...just news
 
Jan 20, 2023 at 7:40 PM Post #1,145 of 2,527
Are you trying to put temptation in front of me in every thread I’m following @m-i-c-k-e-y ? 😅
Too rich for me but with that, a ddc and dac connected to master clock, man I bet that would have a huge effect on streaming audio.
 
Jan 20, 2023 at 9:00 PM Post #1,146 of 2,527
The ideal connection would be a streame/dac w/ clock input like a Gustard R26.
 
Jan 21, 2023 at 4:58 AM Post #1,147 of 2,527
Since i brought it up in this thread i have to make a correction. Inserted ifi dc blocker again after not using it for 6 months or so. Got to say its fantastic this time around with new amp and power conditioner. I am not hearing the drawbacks anymore with brighter sibilant voices(at least i understand now that it doesn't add it by it self or exaggerate it, i mean if the recording was poor it will show it more and likewise if the recording is great). Just the benefits of the beautiful timbre and details it brings and bass is much deeper. It really cleans up the sound.

Anyway sorry for OT in my own thread had to share it.
 

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Jan 21, 2023 at 11:38 AM Post #1,148 of 2,527
Since i brought it up in this thread i have to make a correction. Inserted ifi dc blocker again after not using it for 6 months or so. Got to say its fantastic this time around with new amp and power conditioner. I am not hearing the drawbacks anymore with brighter sibilant voices(at least i understand now that it doesn't add it by it self or exaggerate it, i mean if the recording was poor it will show it more and likewise if the recording is great). Just the benefits of the beautiful timbre and details it brings and bass is much deeper. It really cleans up the sound.

Anyway sorry for OT in my own thread had to share it.
I too have this DC blocker with me however not using it but I do think it’s a good addition as we never know which appliance is leaving behind some DC in power line
 
Jan 21, 2023 at 12:13 PM Post #1,149 of 2,527
Jan 21, 2023 at 12:21 PM Post #1,150 of 2,527
At least they’re honest about what’s inside it. Combination of a $60 linksys. An Lpsu and an oxco clock.
The chassis is also well designed.

Its compartmentalized and each section is separated by aluminum walls to prevent noise spreading into other areas.

Considering that no one offers a switch with master clock input, I think thats the reason why they priced it so high.

Maybe it'll pop up cheaper on aliexpress in the future.
 
Jan 21, 2023 at 12:53 PM Post #1,151 of 2,527
I too have this DC blocker with me however not using it but I do think it’s a good addition as we never know which appliance is leaving behind some DC in power line
Yeah i read your teradak have an toriodal transformer inside(extra good for those with dc blocker). Might be good using it with the network powered devices on an own power conditioner. In my case on the other side in the room compared to the main audio devices. I might buy a second one for that.
 
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Jan 21, 2023 at 1:13 PM Post #1,152 of 2,527
I think the price of the SW-10 is OK. If you look up closely its basically OCK-2 + SW-8 + 2xFMC.
 
Jan 23, 2023 at 3:06 AM Post #1,153 of 2,527
 
Jan 23, 2023 at 11:00 PM Post #1,154 of 2,527
I'm going to reiterate how much of an improvement there was with that ethernet cable upgrade from my verion FMC to my router, significantly improved the sound quality of my system.

This apparently makes certain people angry meanwhile they've never tested or heard anything and are only going by their personal biased beliefs.

They don't seem to understand they're the flat earthers going on nothing but hopes and dreams and "I conducted studies at top universities proving cables don't make a difference! Google it". Then doing a forum equivalent of "Yup, thats true" and patting each other on the back lol.

Just thinking about it makes me laugh so hard that an adult says something like that, like seeing a 50 year old man with his pants down to his ankles and lifting his shirt above his nipples at a urinal.

Anyway just thought I'd add that to this thread because they love to angry read this thread and have been trying to troll it really hard, makes em really angry for some reason. Like when you touch Warren's ears.



Anyway back to our regularly scheduled programming. Please post more about how your ethernet cables and network devices improved the sound quality of your system.
 
Jan 24, 2023 at 4:01 AM Post #1,155 of 2,527
@dougms3 I also found an astonishing difference simply from a change of ethernet cable. I was expecting nothing but instead found an obvious improvement.
 

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