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Dec 13, 2024 at 6:50 AM Post #2,416 of 2,483
I personally disregard the Audiobacon LPS comparison. I'm not saying they are wrong, but every system/component reacts different and I give you this example...

I had the Uptone JS-2. When powering a Lindemann Limetree Bridge II streamer with its 5v output, I found a Farad Super 3 was noticeably superior to the JS-2, so much so I sold the JS-2. And yet the Audiobacon comparison says the JS-2 was much better than the Farad Super 3. In fact that Audiobacon writeup is the only place which is cool on the Farad Super 3.

In fairness to the JS-2, it has dual output, much higher current capability, and I never compared it using its 12v output pushing high amps vs a similar device. Perhaps in that case the JS-2 would be better, as Audobacon suggests.

I would love to compare the Plixir BDC against Farad Super 3. But next LPS purchase I will try this new Pura Dodo as the design philosophy differs from the rest. Or the new Farad Super 6 with magnetic breaker, no need to obsess about fuse upgrades!
Great to see you also made a lot of experience! And that goes hand in hand with what I discovered. And hands down the Super3 with further tweak options like Furutech inlet or SR fuse is actually a classic in todays HiFi world and appreciated by many.
I can tell you one thing that will most likely get you excited. I decided to go for the new Super6 and what this is just amazing. I could never imagine that the jump from the Super3 to the Super6 would be that huge. It seems you get so much of the performance of their Super10 tech at a much more affordable price. I tried the Super6 in various scenarios (with streamer, NAS or ISP router) and it made a huge step up compared to others and is by far the best LPS I have come across.
 
Dec 13, 2024 at 9:46 AM Post #2,417 of 2,483
Great to see you also made a lot of experience! And that goes hand in hand with what I discovered. And hands down the Super3 with further tweak options like Furutech inlet or SR fuse is actually a classic in todays HiFi world and appreciated by many.
I can tell you one thing that will most likely get you excited. I decided to go for the new Super6 and what this is just amazing. I could never imagine that the jump from the Super3 to the Super6 would be that huge. It seems you get so much of the performance of their Super10 tech at a much more affordable price. I tried the Super6 in various scenarios (with streamer, NAS or ISP router) and it made a huge step up compared to others and is by far the best LPS I have come across.
That's great news. The Super 6 looks like a killer LPS. And for those who don't know, it includes Farad's new magnetic breaker that sound better than any boutique fuse.

I have until 31 dec to get the Farad Super 6 with the 250 euro discount (available to all who purchased the Farad Super 3).
 
Dec 13, 2024 at 10:04 AM Post #2,418 of 2,483
That's great news. The Super 6 looks like a killer LPS. And for those who don't know, it includes Farad's new magnetic breaker that sound better than any boutique fuse.

I have until 31 dec to get the Farad Super 6 with the 250 euro discount (available to all who purchased the Farad Super 3).
It really is - you will be excited about it. Give it 250-300h to reach its best performance (in between every week power it off over night during burn-in).
I have been using fuses up to 4 digits in price over the years but what this TMCB is doing is astonishing.
 
Dec 13, 2024 at 12:20 PM Post #2,419 of 2,483
I was just curious. I went straight for the neet 3008 because of my experience with the neotech copper usb vs the silver usb, as you know from the usb thread.
It’s been a while but will be trying the NEET-3008 this weekend.
 
Dec 14, 2024 at 2:56 AM Post #2,420 of 2,483
@markush8
Dont you think everything adds up in your experience? Even with what becomes before the Eno filter? Psus, cables, power conditioners and the lot.

I would believe you get better sound with an LHY SW6 switch for example then a generic one being used before the Eno filter.

You seem to own the Eno filter. Do you use a generic switch with it?

Heres my humble network setup.
I have an LHY SW6 incoming.

I remmmember the days when i got the internet from the phone jack to the right of the fiber outlet. Then i needed an Modem. But now i just go straight to router which is nice.

I Also recently also rearanged the setup to move away the furthest i can from my audiogear. Now its around 3m away before it was like 2m. Also have changed the wifi signal strength to medium on router. To get less airborne RFI.
 

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Dec 14, 2024 at 4:11 AM Post #2,421 of 2,483
It’s been a while but will be trying the NEET-3008 this weekend.

My conclusion:

This didn’t take long:
  • Furutech LAN-8 NCF: Nice weight, good soundstage and details in the midrange. It’s weakness is the bass (lacking defintion) and the highs feel held back.
  • Neotech NEET-3008: Very nice cable with a pleasing, slightly warm sound across the entire frequency range. Excellent value!
  • Shunyata Delta: Fast and punchy but lacking weight and with slightly recessed mids creating the an ”illusion” of more air or space.
I’ll be sticking with the Ethernet cable that comes with the IPP; it gives me the sense of unrestricted ”bandwidth” I want in the position I’m using it in.

The copper Neotech NEET-3008 is excellent and, believe it or not, I might even prefer it to the silver Neotech NEET-1008. Big caveat, haven’t compared them directly.
 
Dec 22, 2024 at 4:41 PM Post #2,422 of 2,483
[Too valuable info to share....sorry changed my mind :laughing: :sweat_smile: ]
 
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Jan 11, 2025 at 2:30 AM Post #2,424 of 2,483
Listened for first time with LHY SW-6 instead of Netgear GS108 with ifi ipower-x.

Disappointed that the bass dynamics is worse on LHY SW6.

Is it known to have poor bass and dynamics? Lacks bass punch and slam and bass rhythm dynamics. Drum hits feels weaker.

I am using the generic Power cable that came with it. Will try my Audioquest NRG Z3 Power cable on it tommorow.

Is it known to get better with burn in time?

Still can hear some more refinement overall but to polite and boring because of the bass lack

Maybe the LPS thing on a Switch shows up here? that Hans Beekhuyzen been talking about With worse dynamics.
 
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Jan 11, 2025 at 2:34 AM Post #2,425 of 2,483
Anyone satisfied with the bass and dynamics on LHY SW6?
 
Jan 11, 2025 at 2:42 AM Post #2,426 of 2,483
Or should i buy in to what hes says that the bass gets tighter and more refined? And that i was hearing bass bloth before?

"What led me to embark on this experiment was the improvement I had on sound when I decided to put my Netgear GS108 on a linear power supply. I decided to go one step further and try the SW-6. The difference was not subtle. Sound stage and instrument separations all improved. But, the biggest improvement was in the overall ease (effortlessness) of the music. The highs became smoother and free of any sibilance, the midrange became richer and the bass became tighter and faster with enhanced definitions. This became apparent when I turned up the volume on my DS MK1 DAC and BHK Pre to a level that would be uncomfortable to my ears prior to having the switch in the chain. In fact, the improvement was much bigger than when I had upgraded the LPS for my Auralic G2."
https://forum.psaudio.com/t/lhy-sw-6-snake-oil-or-a-substantial-upgrade/35967
 
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Jan 11, 2025 at 3:15 AM Post #2,427 of 2,483
I’ve had the SW-8 and the GS108E since late 2022. I’ve tried the Netgear with a number of power supplies including the power X and a lifepo4 battery, with and without the iFi DC iPurifier2. It became clear fairly quickly the SW-8 was/is the superior switch, even using the best sounding PS (the battery + DC iPurifier) for the GS108. Though from recollection - and this is testing my recall as it was a couple of years ago - as the SW-8 has this relaxed and smooth character after some experimentation I found the sound tightened up and got a little more punchy with the GS108 inserted ahead of the LHY ie. router - Netgear - LHY. This was better than router - LHY - Netgear.

I’ve since moved on to a couple of Afterdark switches fed by the SW-8 (they’re both a level above the SW-8), with the Netgear in storage.

Take your time, try different combos, acclimatise to the sound is my advice, and be wary of artificial etching which exaggerates perceived dynamics by simplifying transients, losing some of the subtle detail around the leading and trailing edges of notes. I’ve experienced a few components, incl DDCs, and tweaks that do this. But ultimately your ears are the guide. If a component sounds the best to you after extended listening over weeks rather than days, then it is.
 
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Jan 11, 2025 at 3:36 AM Post #2,429 of 2,483
I went from the GS108 to the SW-6. Exactly as Jake said with his SW-8 upgrade, it brought a more relaxed and at ease presentation. Perhaps that is what you notice about the bass, not as punchy and upfront as before. I prefer the SW-6 sound.

I used an Ifi X and Ifi Elite on the Netgear.
 
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Jan 11, 2025 at 3:39 AM Post #2,430 of 2,483
Thanks @Jake2 for the good advice.

I took out the Netgear in the chain to assess the LHY SW6 on its own. So not chained. Router goes directly in to SW6.
 
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