THE COMPOSER OPEN BACK FLAGSHIP by AUSTRIAN AUDIO

[dynavit]

Fortunately I can classify what a poorly designed and engineered driver is from a proper one and you can’t

You seem to be a real specialist. Could you please name me 2-3 headphones with good drivers, so we all know, what to buy next.

 

[plakat]

Yes, pure speculation.
My bet is that AA people know what they are doing. They are not doing this for the first time. And I guess they know about the properties of foam. And distortion. Might even have measured it during development.

Why does this thread attract the most useless speculation, especially from people who have not even touched the object in question? And bring up the same tired points again and again, oblivious to all prior discussion?

 

[Nomax]

Yes, pure speculation.
My bet is that AA people know what they are doing. They are not doing this for the first time. And I guess they know about the properties of foam. And distortion. Might even have measured it during development.

Why does this thread attract the most useless speculation, especially from people who have not even touched the object in question? And bring up the same tired points again and again, oblivious to all prior discussion?

Because they are bored .....Maybe I should also start with it in the other threads

NOMAX

 

[ThEvil0nE]

You seem to be a real specialist. Could you please name me 2-3 headphones with good drivers, so we all know, what to buy next.

Not about to entertain that.. foam has been entertaining enough.

Yes, pure speculation.
My bet is that AA people know what they are doing. They are not doing this for the first time. And I guess they know about the properties of foam. And distortion. Might even have measured it during development.

Why does this thread attract the most useless speculation, especially from people who have not even touched the object in question? And bring up the same tired points again and again, oblivious to all prior discussion?

Pros and cons of foam is not speculation and yes 100% AA knows what they are doing. It’s the application and relation to servicing or replacing the filter is the concern and I don’t have to own one to know that.
So you agree and is favorable of how the foam filter is attached? With adhesive? Coz I’m sure there are better ways that’s more customer friendly.

 

[ThEvil0nE]

Because they are bored .....Maybe I should also start with it in the other threads

NOMAX

Still won’t change the obvious

 

[Nomax]

Not about to entertain that.. foam has been entertaining enough.

Pros and cons of foam is not speculation and yes 100% AA knows what they are doing. It’s the application and relation to servicing or replacing the filter is the concern and I don’t have to own one to know that.
So you agree and is favorable of how the foam filter is attached? With adhesive? Coz I’m sure there are better ways that’s more customer friendly.

You could also put in one that slips and doesn't sit tight and thus has a detrimental effect on the performance (There are several models)
How playful and easy the foam exchange is about it, AA will certainly also make a video

NOMAX

 

[Philimon]

It's not especially poor design, you're just adding extra stuff again. The foam shouldn't tear under normal use.if you actuslly saw a composer i seriously doubt you be throwing shade on it's construction.

I am wondering if tensioned foam adhered only at very edges is strong enough to handle unfortunate scenarios like accidental falls or pokes. I agree that’s not “normal use” and acceptable risk.

Why does this thread attract the most useless speculation, especially from people who have not even touched the object in question? And bring up the same tired points again and again, oblivious to all prior discussion?

There is no way this thread about a rare new headphone gets to 182 pages without many useless posts. I think its the incredulous pro-manufacturer comments that attracts naysayers like myself. Perhaps Composer is better suited for Summit-Fi sub-forum where users are less conservative with their dollars.

Because they are bored .....Maybe I should also start with it in the other threads

NOMAX

Are you required to have personal relationship with vendor first?

 

[plakat]

Pros and cons of foam is not speculation and yes 100% AA knows what they are doing. It’s the application and relation to servicing or replacing the filter is the concern and I don’t have to own one to know that.
So you agree and is favorable of how the foam filter is attached? With adhesive? Coz I’m sure there are better ways that’s more customer friendly.

I don't think that servicing that specific piece of foam will be a regular maintenance procedure like exchanging the pads. And those are very easy to change. I gather AA felt the need to have that foam firmly in place and did their best to ensure its functioning. It will be available as a spart part (why do I repeat myself again and again even?) and I'm sure they went with the balance between serviceability and function they saw fit. Again, they don't do all this for the first time like some boutique company still learning the ropes.
New constructions sometimes exhibit unexpected behavior when out in the wild. But with some parts wear is simply unavoidable (pads, headband).

 

[plakat]

There is no way this thread about a rare new headphone gets to 182 pages without many useless posts. I think its the incredulous pro-manufacturer comments that attracts naysayers like myself. Perhaps Composer is better suited for Summit-Fi sub-forum where users are less conservative with their dollars.

That might have been a good idea, yes.
Unfortunately sometimes 2k is considered midrange nowadays... not that I like that stance though.

 

[M3NTAL]

Spoiler: GIVE IT A REST!

 

[ThEvil0nE]

I don't think that servicing that specific piece of foam will be a regular maintenance procedure like exchanging the pads. And those are very easy to change. I gather AA felt the need to have that foam firmly in place and did their best to ensure its functioning. It will be available as a spart part (why do I repeat myself again and again even?) and I'm sure they went with the balance between serviceability and function they saw fit. Again, they don't do all this for the first time like some boutique company still learning the ropes.
New constructions sometimes exhibit unexpected behavior when out in the wild. But with some parts wear is simply unavoidable (pads, headband).

Compromise is always a double edge sword. I’m hoping and leaning on the positive side of that.

Spoiler: GIVE IT A REST!

Then I shall rest my case.

 

[chesebert]

Wait, are we still on foam? I feel like we were on foam gate for the entire month.

 

[plakat]

Wait, are we still on foam? I feel like we were on foam gate for the entire month.

Thats due to the leap day... we're still in February

 

[ThEvil0nE]

Thats due to the leap day... we're still in February

I did step back for a week after the thread clean up and returned seeing the thread 10 or so pages deep with still the same topic.

Anyway, putting that aside, looking forward to hear them at AXPONA and or Canjam Chicago.

 

[chesebert]

I did step back for a week after the thread clean up and returned seeing the thread 10 or so pages deep with still the same topic.

Anyway, putting that aside, looking forward to hear them at AXPONA and or Canjam Chicago.

Canjam Chicago is dead, IIRC.