ThanatosVI
Headphoneus Supremus
Yeah they certainly sound amazing
T+A Solitaire P planar magnetostatic
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Looking at your profile, it is not a short list.
What chain are you using to drive them?
Arcamera
1000+ Head-Fier
Auris Nirvana. Sounds pretty spectacular together.
For my source I do primarily old school CD playback-- through an Exposure XMCD, or Rega Saturn.
Arcamera
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What are the views on alternate cables for the Solitaire P? Has anyone done much experimenting? Are there any cable companies making that kind of termination?
Specifically, I'm wondering what an all copper cable would sound like.
Specifically, I'm wondering what an all copper cable would sound like.
ThanatosVI
Headphoneus Supremus
It's the same connector as a Sennheiser HD800. You only have to pay attention that it's not too thick to fit into the recessed socket.
Probably best to inquire at your cable manufacturer of choice if they can do it/did it in the past
I've used both an all-copper cable (Forza Audio Noir) and all silver (Lavri Grand). I personally prefer the latter. It has a refinement and clarity that is quite special, and while silver can sometimes be bright, the Lavri avoids any harshness and retains a velvety smoothness to the sound.
As has been mentioned, it uses the HD800 style connector. In addition to thickness (though generally should not be an issue - the Forza is very thick for example, and fits well), I would also say that additional / longer strain relief is useful. Particularly if the cable is thin / flexible, as the socket is recessed in the cup so the extra strain relief aids in plugging in and / or out.
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agreed.. email Roy/Val and they'll sort you out. I'm using the Aeris with my SolP. prefer that pairing over all my other cables. actually, the Aeris goes well with pretty much anything I hook it up to lol.
ThanatosVI
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The official T+A High End announcements are here.
https://www.ta-hifi.de/en/high-end-2023/
All in one Devices for speakers (but with headphone out).
The R 2500R is essentially my PA2000R + MP2000R in one chassis.
The interesting part for me is the new streaming Module, which is an upgrade to my MP2000R.
I'm confused about the PDV 3100 HV announcement, I could have sworn this was already announced last year
https://www.ta-hifi.de/en/high-end-2023/
All in one Devices for speakers (but with headphone out).
The R 2500R is essentially my PA2000R + MP2000R in one chassis.
The interesting part for me is the new streaming Module, which is an upgrade to my MP2000R.
I'm confused about the PDV 3100 HV announcement, I could have sworn this was already announced last year
No Solitaire P closed back yet then. 
ThanatosVI
Headphoneus Supremus
Also no Solitaire E to tackle the He1No Solitaire P closed back yet then.
I tried the Solitaire T at Axpona. They were smaller than I expected but nice and comfortable. The sound very nice but what turned me ayas from them was the lack of power.
I was needing to take the volume almost all the way up to get a decent level of sound. Based on what the person there told me that was most of the feedback they were getting. Too bad because otherwise I would seriously consider them.
I was needing to take the volume almost all the way up to get a decent level of sound. Based on what the person there told me that was most of the feedback they were getting. Too bad because otherwise I would seriously consider them.
TheOneInYellow
1000+ Head-Fier
That's true depending on what mode you run the Solitaire T in.
In USB-C mode to most devices, current firmware is locked to lower volume and capped. I believe from owners in the Solitaire T thread that iOS devices fair better.
In Bluetooth modes, volume is significantly louder after the +3dB firmware update, but may not be enough for all users.
In my case, it is sufficient for commuting and untethered usage, and Bluetooth HQ mode (ANC off and direct decoding via ESS ES9218P chip) is incredible in quieter environments.
Regarding volume in ANC, it's great for louder environments and more than sufficient alongside passive earcup isolation, but won't compete against Apple AirPods Max or Sony WH-1000XM5. However, the latter two cans have more technical engineering for ANC, especially mic count (WH-1000XM5 has eight mics for ANC, and two for voice), whereas Solitaire T has two for ANC only and two for voice. The key difference here, however, is T+A engineering of ANC is to its voicing, to closely match its other modes, something that few headphones have achieved; Mark Levinson No. 5909's are the closest that I am aware of.
Wired mode (with wireless electronics bypassed), either single-ended or balanced, volume is, of course, a non-issue depending on the amplifier you use.
In my case of using the Solitaire T, I enjoy the voicing similarity across all modes, but vastly prefer using it in balanced mode with my FiiO M17.
Just as an aside, T+A Solitaire T headphones are wired balanced internally, and have a single 2.5mm TRRS earphone cup connector. If you purchase the cans, it comes with both single-ended (3.5mm TRS) and balanced (4.4mm) terminations.
Hope that helps give context from a user
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I demoed them via Bluetooth but don’t know if they had that firmware update you mention.
TheOneInYellow
1000+ Head-Fier
That's fair, and it can be hard to gauge if that firmware was installed or not. (The firmware version should be v4.0.5, and installed via the T+A Companion App v1.0.0+66. Was released December 2022; head-fi post here).
I suggest giving them another go, but there is always the ML 5909 too
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