Super.fi 5 EB/Pro too bassy?

[KenW]

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Originally Posted by GoRedwings19 I was wondering how the UM 2's compare. It's time for me to explore a set of canalphones. I am looking for a ps-1 style sound for the canalphone. Although these EB's sound more my cup of poison. You eq the bass down? HAHA Good thing I never sent you my Ps-1's then.

Well, I'd be able to give you some sort of comparison between the two IF you'd sent those PS-1's now wouldn't I??!

Hey, it's never too late. I can ship you my EB's and you can send me those PS-1's for a time. Ah heck, let's just trade straight up!

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KenW, are you talking about the EBs or the Pros?

The EB's are what I'm referring to.

 

[GoRedwings19]

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Originally Posted by KenW Well, I'd be able to give you some sort of comparison between the two IF you'd sent those PS-1's now wouldn't I??! Hey, it's never too late. I can ship you my EB's and you can send me those PS-1's for a time. Ah heck, let's just trade straight up! The EB's are what I'm referring to.

I have already shipped them stateside to ohio. Then they are off to Maryland and then if you like you.

Hey ampless one I know you are a closet basshead but do they have more bass than your 650's or Rs-1's? Also how is the bass impact? I would think they would be considerabley less?

 

[indiaUS9782]

Now. Before i make my final decision... Today i was listening to rock on my e2c's and it just all one big mash in the background music. Is this normal in all headphones or would the e4, or stereo.fi 5 be more distinguished in the instruments. (which is better for rock.)

 

[KenW]

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Originally Posted by GoRedwings19 I have already shipped them stateside to ohio. Then they are off to Maryland and then if you like you. Hey ampless one I know you are a closet basshead but do they have more bass than your 650's or Rs-1's? Also how is the bass impact? I would think they would be considerabley less?

Very subjective stuff there Pink one. I'd have to say for quantity of bass, the EB's are there with the 650s and then some(not easy for canalphones IMO!!). As for impact, I have to say the 650's get the nod. In terms of quality....the RS-1s take honors. All this is the way I perceive it. Your mileage may vary.

I will say that these things really place the emphasis on the low end. Almost to the point of being unnatural...if one can use that phrase with headphones. Honestly, these are the first pair of canalphones that have actually had me "feeling" the bass!

Totally colored, overdone, overblown and unnatural but a heckuva lot of fun when you want to bang with some metal.

 

[crazyfrenchman27]

There's no comparison:

The UE-5 EB's are way bassier than the PS-1's.

I doubt there's any headphone/ear phone/canal phone in existence that produces more bass than the EB.

-Matt

 

[GoRedwings19]

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Originally Posted by crazyfrenchman27 There's no comparison: The UE-5 EB's are way bassier than the PS-1's. I doubt there's any headphone/ear phone/canal phone in existence that produces more bass than the EB. -Matt

Do you mean it has better quality bass than the Ps-1 or or are we just talking the amount of it? What is your perspective on the bass impact between the two.

 

[YoungClayB]

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Originally Posted by sifodias So I'm really being tempted by UE, but now my battle is between the EB and Pro.. Now I love bass, and I hear the Pro's are better.. but do they still deliver lots of bass? And I'm talking about more bass than Sony ex71s, because that's what I have now and I just don't see it very logical to spend 150+ dollars if they're not going to be better than what I already have

I have been using the sony ex71 for about a year up until 2 days ago when I upgraded to the super.fi 5 Pros. The 5 Pros definitely have more bass than the ex71's. But the bass is different; its not muddy at all and the freq response goes much lower than the ex71's. If you have been reasonably happy with the ex71's, I gaurentee that you will be satisfied with the bass output of the 5 Pros.

I must confess, I love bass. I wouldnt call myself a basshead, but I did play the bass guitar back in college, so I pay particular attention to the low end. Having said that, I cannot imaine being happy with any phones that have more bass than the 5 Pros. (i.e. the EB's). In my opinion, the 5 Pros are the way to go.

 

[tucker71]

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Originally Posted by KenW My complaints with the EB's. First, I don't like the size. They don't fit into the ears the way the E5C's do so there's a definite 'profile' issue. Compound that with the white color and these do stand out when being worn.

I would reeeally like to see a few photos of somebody actually WEARING the SuFi-EBs (and the SuFi PROS).
Is there anyone out there that could snap a few shots??

Thnx.

 

[YoungClayB]

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Originally Posted by tucker71 I would reeeally like to see a few photos of somebody actually WEARING the SuFi-EBs (and the SuFi PROS). Is there anyone out there that could snap a few shots?? Thnx.

http://www6.head-fi.org/forums/showt...light=pics+e4c

 

[tucker71]

NICE!
Those are great pics. The SuFi PRO has a smaller silhouette than I thought it would.
I still wanna see a few shots of somebody wearing the SuFi EB's though.

 

[Cannonfodder]

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Originally Posted by Lil_JV Use this price and contact Earphone Solutions. They will beat that price and possibly still give free shipping. Plus, they are a Head-Fi sponsor, and awesome people to deal with. JV.

That's not always the case. I asked them to price-match on the Etymotic ER-6i, which was available for $79.00 at Comp-U-Plus and $81 at Buy.com, and they wouldn't on the first and couldn't on the second(?).

They said that Comp-U-Plus doesn't offer free shipping (so that kinda scuppers the "possibly give free shipping" part), which is a moot point considering that if they price-matched Comp-U-Plus shipping would still not be free as that only comes into play if you spend >$98 according to their site (you'd also think they'd realise this when answering). And they claimed that Buy's $81 was below their cost. No offer made in return.

Further searching sees the ER-6i going for $75 at Erwincomp.

The point is that to claim Earphonesolutions will beat that price is a bit presumptuous. They might, but not certainly so.

 

[kithng]

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Originally Posted by tucker71 NICE! Those are great pics. The SuFi PRO has a smaller silhouette than I thought it would. I still wanna see a few shots of somebody wearing the SuFi EB's though.

it's chinese, but you can see the photo

http://www.mingo-hmw.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=9860

 

[tucker71]

Arigato. (is that even RIGHT?)


I'm STILL looking for some good head-on shots of the SuFi EB's.
If they have enough of a "low-profile" then I can use them as a back-up when I'm onstage and my in-ears crap out on me. Or if a special guest comes up and they need a pair. Or whatever.
I play Bass guitar. From what I've read...the EB's are basically the UE-Hybrid but, with a universal fit. In other words...they can definitely handle the onstage use.

 

[exkgb]

That Chinese review is a pretty interesting read, I translated a large part of it for those who are interested.
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the EB is more comfortable than the Shure E4 and E3; about the same as E2 and slightly less comfortable than the E5. Keep in mind comfort is subjective and differs from person to person. I tried all the tips and the double-flange is the most comfortable. Isolation is good, sitting in a bus without A/C ( those really old noisy kind I think ), I can bearly hear the engine. However, the EB isolates less than the etymotic IEMs, but only slightly. I like its looks, its cute.

Sound quality
The highs seem to be masked by the bass. in classical music, piano are not crisp and flute and violin does not sound smooth. Treble extension is not great. During fast paced piano music, it sounds little muddy. However, when judging these, it depends on which earphones you are comparing them to. Compared to the e2C, it has good highs. Compared to a fully burnt-in E2c, it falls short by about 10-15%. my EB is not fully burnt in so I hope it improves with burn in.

The mids are "carried along" by the bass, it sounds dark, thick and male vocal sounds good. In ( name of certain chinese pop song with male vocals ), its comparable to the UM2. But for piano, UM2 stomps all over the EB. Upon further listening, I prefer the male vocals on the EB, which is rich, thick and warm.

The EB has gobs of bass, the bass is tight and not muddy. There is a lot of impact and its fast enough, unlike the muddy base of koss the plug. After listening to the EB and switching to the er6i, I can't hear the bass at all. The bass also has a lot of extension. With cello, there is a lot of "body" to the sound. Drums also sound great, with powerful impact. Since bass is the main selling point of these phones, its understandable that the bass is good. To summurize, the bass has great extension, powerful, pentiful in quantity and tight, very few earphones can achieve such bass. The bass is like a hybrid of ety and shure, taking good points from both.

Soundstage is less than what I expected from a dual-driver erphones, its about on par with a fully burnt in shure E2c.

 

[redshifter]

correctly burned in the super.fi pro (not eb) has balanced bass, nicely matched with solid treble. there is no overpowering or muffling the treble. none. the bass is detailed and one can easily discern between different bass instruments--it is NOT one-note bass. the headstage is wide (out-of-head effects) and the house sound is musical and engaging (foot-tapping). i have to use the large tips and sometimes they work their way out a little, but if you don't mind foamies they provide the best seal and sq.

rememeber, burn them in properly (50 hours or so) before you post your impressions.