nobb
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I previously had some Shure e2c's, but the cord on them frayed and so I sent them back to Shure for a replacement. I plan on selling the replacement (PM if you are interested) because they will be new in box. I always loved how clear the e2cs sounded in everything except the bass, which I found it to be lacking. The bass was not too terribly bad on the shures because I found the bass very tight, just couldnt go very low. I guess I expected the low deep bass in my home theater, with the clarity and detail to match it. So anyways, after reading many reviews I am I got the Super.fi 5EB because I thought they would have the clarity of the e2cs, but with the deep low bass I was seeking.
I just picked up my new EBs from the post office 30 mins ago and I am listening to them now. My first impression is that these IEMs are REALLY MUDDY. They kind of remind me of my old Koss Plugs. I am kind of disappointed at how muddy they sound right now. The highs seem to be more piercing than the e2cs, but they seem to be lacking the smoothness and clarity of my e2cs. The bass on these really does seem to muddy everything up and overpowers everything. Some people compare the bass of the EBs to a car subwoofer, but I dont think this is accurate at all(compared to my car sub anyways). I actually like the sound of my car's 10" sealed sub and I was hoping the EBs would have the deep and controlled bass similar to my car (and home theatre). I would say the bass is even worse than my sister's Logitech z2300 sub due to how boomy and humpy it sounds. The z2300s sound like there is a midrange hump, whereas the 5EBs seem to have a bass hump at around 60hz(guessing) which sounds worse to me. I actually think the z2300 system sounds smooth compared to the 5 EBs right now. The bass on the 5EBs just doesnt seem to be as low and smooth as with the subs I am used to and these IEMs make music sound very heavy/hefty. I should also mention that the 5EBs dont actually seem to go as low as the various subwoofers I am used to, but maybe this is because the bass hump overpowers the very low frequencies. I dont exactly know how to describe the midrange/highs of these IEMs because right now, my brain is being overpowered by the muddy and boomy low frequencies.
I then tried to watch some movie clips (scenes with little bass and mostly dialogue) with this IEM and my experience got a bit better. These IEMs seem to have more detail and crispness than the e2cs. Everything still sounded a bit hefty, but I like the extra crispness and detail. So I really am thinking that these have the potential to be awesome IEMs if only the lower frequencies didnt muddy everything up.
In terms of fit, these IEMs are HUGE and they stick out of my ear. However, they are just as comfortable as my old e2c's so I dont really care. The weird design also makes it feel weird when putting the earphones in my ear, but I guess I will just have to get used to it. I am using my old e2c small tips with these IEMs right now. I will try different tips later, but the shure tips are made of a thicker rubber and dont feel as cheap as the tips provided by the 5EB. The isolation is not as good at the e2c's, but I still cant decide whether that is a good or bad thing.
However, like I said, I have done quite a bit of reading before I bought these IEMs. Even before my purchase, I was aware of the many complaints of people who seem to have a similar first impression as me. I just did not realize it would be this bad. I am actually a bit of a basshead myself, but wow...after listening to these IEMs I now know what muddy really is. I am also aware that almost everyone says these IEMs will sound much better broken in (200hrs?) which is exactly what I am going to do. Do you guys think the type of music I play will change the future sound signature of these IEMs? eg. Will playing "tight" music make these IEMs sound more tight, whereas big bass music will make the bass sound more loose?
I am not trying to say these IEMs are horrible because this is just my first impression. Hopefully the bass and muddyness will tighten up after I break these earphones in, so I am going to be patient. I really want to like these because the reviews really suggest this will be the earphone for me (after they break in). To all the other 5EB users, were your first impressions similar to mine? Can you honestly say that after the break-in you really started to love these earphones?
I just picked up my new EBs from the post office 30 mins ago and I am listening to them now. My first impression is that these IEMs are REALLY MUDDY. They kind of remind me of my old Koss Plugs. I am kind of disappointed at how muddy they sound right now. The highs seem to be more piercing than the e2cs, but they seem to be lacking the smoothness and clarity of my e2cs. The bass on these really does seem to muddy everything up and overpowers everything. Some people compare the bass of the EBs to a car subwoofer, but I dont think this is accurate at all(compared to my car sub anyways). I actually like the sound of my car's 10" sealed sub and I was hoping the EBs would have the deep and controlled bass similar to my car (and home theatre). I would say the bass is even worse than my sister's Logitech z2300 sub due to how boomy and humpy it sounds. The z2300s sound like there is a midrange hump, whereas the 5EBs seem to have a bass hump at around 60hz(guessing) which sounds worse to me. I actually think the z2300 system sounds smooth compared to the 5 EBs right now. The bass on the 5EBs just doesnt seem to be as low and smooth as with the subs I am used to and these IEMs make music sound very heavy/hefty. I should also mention that the 5EBs dont actually seem to go as low as the various subwoofers I am used to, but maybe this is because the bass hump overpowers the very low frequencies. I dont exactly know how to describe the midrange/highs of these IEMs because right now, my brain is being overpowered by the muddy and boomy low frequencies.
I then tried to watch some movie clips (scenes with little bass and mostly dialogue) with this IEM and my experience got a bit better. These IEMs seem to have more detail and crispness than the e2cs. Everything still sounded a bit hefty, but I like the extra crispness and detail. So I really am thinking that these have the potential to be awesome IEMs if only the lower frequencies didnt muddy everything up.
In terms of fit, these IEMs are HUGE and they stick out of my ear. However, they are just as comfortable as my old e2c's so I dont really care. The weird design also makes it feel weird when putting the earphones in my ear, but I guess I will just have to get used to it. I am using my old e2c small tips with these IEMs right now. I will try different tips later, but the shure tips are made of a thicker rubber and dont feel as cheap as the tips provided by the 5EB. The isolation is not as good at the e2c's, but I still cant decide whether that is a good or bad thing.
However, like I said, I have done quite a bit of reading before I bought these IEMs. Even before my purchase, I was aware of the many complaints of people who seem to have a similar first impression as me. I just did not realize it would be this bad. I am actually a bit of a basshead myself, but wow...after listening to these IEMs I now know what muddy really is. I am also aware that almost everyone says these IEMs will sound much better broken in (200hrs?) which is exactly what I am going to do. Do you guys think the type of music I play will change the future sound signature of these IEMs? eg. Will playing "tight" music make these IEMs sound more tight, whereas big bass music will make the bass sound more loose?
I am not trying to say these IEMs are horrible because this is just my first impression. Hopefully the bass and muddyness will tighten up after I break these earphones in, so I am going to be patient. I really want to like these because the reviews really suggest this will be the earphone for me (after they break in). To all the other 5EB users, were your first impressions similar to mine? Can you honestly say that after the break-in you really started to love these earphones?