[IPodPJ]

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Eh whatever. I like his music

I used to be a huge fan.  They were my favorite band for many, many years.  But the music has just gone downhill, and so has the SQ.  The Incident was just an hour long mish-mash-mess.

 

[non-entity]

Great, yet another thing that makes me think bad about him. I really love a lot of his stuff, but some things he does besides music make me shake my head. Like this ipod thing, or what he says about mastering and the loudness war. He claims to be some kind of hero when it comes to the loudness war, yet many albums he produced are loud as hell. And of course there have to be about five different version of each album...
 
Sometimes it's better NOT do dig deeper than necessary.

 

[Skylab]

In Absentia is phenomenal sounding, IMO (referring to the DVD-Audio version).

 

[salannelson]

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Eh whatever. I like his music

I used to be a huge fan.  They were my favorite band for many, many years.  But the music has just gone downhill, and so has the SQ.  The Incident was just an hour long mish-mash-mess.

 
I should add that I am not a fan of his later work as well. My favorites are Up the Downstair and Metanoia EP. I'm not really a fan of his last 4 albums.

 

[IPodPJ]

And I'm really quite upset that he has re-released the Recordings album.  That was supposed to be a limited edition run of 20,000 pieces, of which I have 2.  One I still have sealed in the original packaging and if you saw the price they go for, it's around $400.
 
I certainly don't mind an artist sharing his good music with people who weren't fortunate enough to buy it the first time around, but you can do that by selling FLAC downloads.  Re-pressing a limited edition is a cheesy thing to do, which he publicly stated after the Insurgentes special editions were sold out, which is why he never re-released them.  I was pissed I didn't get one during the time between when I first checked the site which notified me it was about to become available, and the few days later when I was going to place my order they were all sold out.  But that's the way the cookie crumbles.  People who bought several of those albums turned a nice profit on eBay because they sold for as much as $600+.  Because of this I bought 2 Incident Deluxe editions (hoping to sell the second one for enough to cover my cost on both), which I got screwed on for two reasons:  the sound quality sucks, and they never sold for more than the original asking price.  SW shamelessly never announced the quantity of the limited CD sets, so he left it open for producing more if he had to.

 

[infinitesymphony]

Count me in as a Steven Wilson / Porcupine Tree fan who believes that the prolific nature of his output ends up reducing the power of his message. I stopped worrying about the EPs and limited editions once I saw that the re-release, remix, remaster cycle was neverending. But that's beside the point.
 
It sounds like you may have missed the meaning behind his iPod tirade. His criticism was not against applications or the iTunes store, it was against what he saw as a potential nail in the coffin for the album format. He's a big-time LP listener and designs his own albums to be listened to as a whole rather than broken up and sold piecemeal. Radiohead were similarly bummed about those prospects.

 

[logwed]

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[Proglover]

I don't care what he looks like, what he likes, dislikes or whatever, he's a living legend in prog.rock. I'm interested in his music and mixes, not anything else, although I agree it's a bit hypocrit about the app.
 
I've been going to PT concerts and buying every record from Signify on in 1996 and I actually find the PT records to improve. Everything from Stupid Dream until now is a masterpiece in my collection, The Incident is one of the best records I have.
 
About sound quality, I used to think he's a master in 5.1 mixes, but his 5.1 mix from The Incident shocked me. The normal record is fine, not a very bad sq, but the DVD mix is awful, plan awful!
He did Anathema's 2010 record 5.1 mix, also awful.
 
His best is still In Absentia.
The live DVD/Bluray Anesthetize is almost perfect, both SQ as how the played.
 
I hope they make a beautiful DVD again, from The Incident tour.
 

 

[Skylab]

The King Crimson 40th Anniversary remasters that Wilson did are outstanding sounding, so the guy clearly knows how to make good sounding records when he wants.

 

[Proglover]

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The King Crimson 40th Anniversary remasters that Wilson did are outstanding sounding, so the guy clearly knows how to make good sounding records when he wants.

Yes, he delivered outstanding work, but I simply don't understand why the last PT 5.1 is so mediocre. The No-man records are also fantastic, in particular 'Together we're stranger'

 

[hiddenninja]

 
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The King Crimson 40th Anniversary remasters that Wilson did are outstanding sounding, so the guy clearly knows how to make good sounding records when he wants.

Yes, he delivered outstanding work, but I simply don't understand why the last PT 5.1 is so mediocre. The No-man records are also fantastic, in particular 'Together we're stranger'

Maybe it's due to a possible misplacement of priorities toward the King Crimson remasters as opposed to his own band's newest album (which, IIRC, was released the same year as the remasters he made for Crimson)?

 

[Skylab]

Quite possibly.  While I thought highly of "The Incident" musically, and it was great played live, the recording was not as good sounding as many other PT albums.
 
I rank the post-space-rock PT studio albums sonically as follows:
 
In Absentia > Lighbulb Sun > FOABP > Deadwing > The Incident
 
I own all of those in both DVD-A and vinyl.

 

[Proglover]

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I rank the post-space-rock PT studio albums sonically as follows:
 
In Absentia > Lighbulb Sun > FOABP > Deadwing > The Incident
 

 
musically, the same order for me, except The Incident first (don't know yet how that'll be over time since Incident is still a little bit new).
 
I think Stupid Dream could be there also, although it's a bit of old and new PT. If there, ST in between In Absentia and Lightbulb Sun.
Favorite songs: Drawing the Line and Trains

 

[daveDerek]

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And I'm really quite upset that he has re-released the Recordings album.  That was supposed to be a limited edition run of 20,000 pieces, of which I have 2.  One I still have sealed in the original packaging and if you saw the price they go for, it's around $400.
 
I certainly don't mind an artist sharing his good music with people who weren't fortunate enough to buy it the first time around, but you can do that by selling FLAC downloads.  Re-pressing a limited edition is a cheesy thing to do, which he publicly stated after the Insurgentes special editions were sold out, which is why he never re-released them.  I was pissed I didn't get one during the time between when I first checked the site which notified me it was about to become available, and the few days later when I was going to place my order they were all sold out.  But that's the way the cookie crumbles.  People who bought several of those albums turned a nice profit on eBay because they sold for as much as $600+.  Because of this I bought 2 Incident Deluxe editions (hoping to sell the second one for enough to cover my cost on both), which I got screwed on for two reasons:  the sound quality sucks, and they never sold for more than the original asking price.  SW shamelessly never announced the quantity of the limited CD sets, so he left it open for producing more if he had to.

wow, so it sounds like the big reason that you're angry is because he spoiled your chances to profiteer from his work!  good for him!  i'm not a fan of this ltd ed thing.  the music should be available for those who are interested to listen to, not for people to turn a quick buck on for doing/producing absolutely nothing.  this casino mentality breeds little positive and has folks expecting something for nothing. 
obviously you've been a fan and supporter of his work for a while. me too. i don't expect to make money off of that though. the reward is in what i get out of the music.
 

 

[baka1969]

The simple truth is, we're all hypocrites. That's humanity. I've gotten over that fact a long time ago. Anyone that says they're not is lying.

I'm a PT fan. It seems that "The Sky Moves Sideways" isn't popular to admit liking. But I do.