Static electricity driving me crazy. Please help!
Jan 5, 2022 at 1:14 PM Thread Starter Post #1 of 16

Tarkus1984

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Hi everyone,

I’m having some weird issues with static electricity in my audio setup and I would appreciate your thoughts and tips before something gets fried.

For context, humidity where I live is currently around 38 – 41% which is not too bad. My couch produces a significant amount of static electricity so whenever I have a listening session, I’m sure I will shock myself whenever I get up and touch something metallic.

My current set up consists of almost all-schiit components:

Bifrost 2 DAC, Audiolab 6000 cd transport, Freya S preamp, Mani phono preamp, Loki mini eq, Asgard 3 headphone amp and Vidar amp, all going to a Furman M-8X2 power strip/conditioner and into a grounded (as of yesterday) outlet. My outputs are Elac DBR62 speakers and I also have a set of Sennheiser HD600 and Hifiman Sundara headphones.

Now, to the issue. Curiously, I started noticing this since I incorporated the Audiolab cd transport and the Furman power strip about 3 weeks ago.

Previous issue: While being charged up with static electricity, whenever I touched any of the components, a spark would fly and a light shock would happen. All regular stuff and this didn’t have any impact on music playback. Previously all my components were plugged into a cheap, basic power strip to an ungrounded outlet.

Current issue: Since adding the cd transport and the Furman power conditioner (I’m not saying any of these two components are at fault at this point, but I noticed this issue since incorporating them), whenever I touch any of the components while charged with static, the music is interrupted for a microsecond and then comes back. For those of you familiar with the Schiit Bifrost 2 DAC, whenever there’s an interruption or change in the data stream being fed, there’s audible clicks which are normal. In my current situation, the interruption of the music when the static shock occurs is accompanied of a couple of quick clicks from the Bifrost and then the music continues without issue. Now, what is REALLY strange to me is that this issue is amplified -no pun intended, when I’m listening through headphones where I don’t even need to touch any of the components or any metallic surface for the music to be interrupted. I assume the static is traveling from my body through the headphones into my system somehow. By the way, this happens with both the HD600 (all plastic body) and the Sundaras (metal frame). It even comes to the point with the Sundaras where I can audibly hear the static "trapped" in the headphones when I discharge in the way of a high pitch until I touch the headphone cable if it makes any sense.

While I could dig deeper into the issue to try to isolate what’s happening, I have a few questions I would appreciate your input with before doing anything. My fear at this point is that the constant discharge of static electricity could damage some of the components If I try to isolate the fault through further testing and replication of the issue given that there is now a direct negative effect in the sound playback with a physical reaction in the form of clicks from the DAC. My questions are:

  • If the outlet where I’m plugging the Furman into is grounded, should/could the static discharge be still causing this reaction?
  • Would it be worth trying to isolate the issue with the potential risk of damaging something or should I just live with it and look for alternatives such as a humidifier to decrease static buildup, stop listening with headphones, using another device or contraption to discharge myself constantly, etc?
  • Is it “normal” for the static to be discharged through the headphones into the system even with the HD600 which are all plastic?


Thank you in advance for your comments, feedback and input. In the end, I just want to be able to sit down, enjoy the music without constantly worrying about frying something up.
 
Jan 5, 2022 at 4:35 PM Post #2 of 16
Quick follow up, I did some further testing and the culprit seems to be one of the following three:
  • Coaxial out of the cd transport
  • Coaxial in of the DAC
  • Coaxial cable (my personal bet)
I tried multiple zappings and the only one that has an effect on music playback is when the cd transport is active through coax and when the coax input option is selected in the DAC. I even used both the coax ins and outs of the cd transport and DAC and the same time and music only gets interrupted when the coaxial connection is active.

For what it's worth, I'm using a Blue Jeans coax cable that I bought after reading positive feedback so I will have to buy another by a different brand to see if it does the same.

Will keep this thread updated with findings.
 
Jan 5, 2022 at 4:59 PM Post #3 of 16
You need an anti-static couch! :relieved:
 
Jan 5, 2022 at 5:12 PM Post #4 of 16
You need an anti-static couch! :relieved:
YES I DO! Is leather conductive? maybe one of those eames lounge chair replicas is in my future?
 
Jan 5, 2022 at 7:07 PM Post #5 of 16
I think the couch is the culprit. If you didn't have static from the couch, you wouldn't have any problem. Maybe you could put a grounded plate in front of your stereo and just tap that before you touch the controls?
 
Jan 6, 2022 at 3:00 AM Post #6 of 16
Jan 6, 2022 at 3:20 AM Post #7 of 16
I need an anti static dog!
 
Jan 6, 2022 at 7:12 AM Post #9 of 16
Jan 6, 2022 at 9:27 AM Post #10 of 16
Thanks everyone for your replies!

I'm now seriously considering getting a humidifier + anti static spray for the sofa combo as in the end static electricity is the main villain here. I'm still curious as to which component is causing the signal to be interrupted when I zap the system which at least right now everything points at the coaxial portion of it.

Just for further testing sake, I replaced my Bifrost DAC with a Schiit Modi and to my surprise nothing happens when I zap it, not even when using the coax connection to the cd transport as it does with the Bifrost.

Anyhow, I'm just hoping I dont fry my Bifrost with the continuous torture of zapping and testing but I really want to narrow down the cause of the interruptions. I'll be swapping out the furman conditioner and use a regular strip instead and will also test with another coax cable that I'm getting today.

Will keep this thread updated.
 
Jan 7, 2022 at 3:41 AM Post #11 of 16
Hopefully the humidifier & anti static spray takes you there and the problem gets solved. Low humidity is not comfortable for the skin, so a humidifier can help with general comfort in that way. Hopefully the anti static spray doesn't smell bad... ...It will be interesting to hear what kind of results you'll get with all the testing. :relieved:
 
Jan 7, 2022 at 10:00 PM Post #12 of 16
Follow up report after some further testing. Everything points at something in the coaxial chain between the cd transport and the DAC. The music only gets interrupted when coax is being used. When using optical, playback stays consistent.
  • Tried a different coaxial cable, no change. Music still gets interrupted briefly when static discharge occurs.
  • Tried a different DAC. Using both coaxial cables, no change. Music still gets interrupted.
  • Removed the furman power conditioner and tried two regular power strips. Same music interruption with one, however something funny happened when testing the other. If I discharged static by touching my preamp, playback was not interrupted. When I discharged by touching the DAC, then the music stopped for a micro second.
I found something even weirder now. CD transport playing through coax. I turned on the phono preamp to play some records later on the turntable and the signal ALSO got interrupted! No static discharge or anything this time. I just literally turned the phono on and the music got interrupted. I tried the same using the optical cable from the CD into the DAC and nothing happed. I'm starting to think the coaxial cable or some other component in the coaxial chain is SUPER sensitive to any change in electrical current.

For my sanity, I will stop worrying and will be buying a humidifier over the weekend as well as static spray. As long as there's no static I should be a happy camper.

Have a nice weekend everyone!
 
Jan 8, 2022 at 9:00 AM Post #13 of 16
What is the reason why you don't want to use optical cable between CD player and DAC? Wouldn't that be the solution? Also, unless your DAC is 10 times better in sound quality compared to the CD player, it is a good idea to use the analog outputs of the CD player.
 
Jan 8, 2022 at 9:47 AM Post #14 of 16
What is the reason why you don't want to use optical cable between CD player and DAC? Wouldn't that be the solution? Also, unless your DAC is 10 times better in sound quality compared to the CD player, it is a good idea to use the analog outputs of the CD player.
I stream music through a Chromecast audio and I use the optical for it. The CD is a transport, not a player so it doesn't have an onboard DAC. In any case, static will be gone soon
 
Jan 8, 2022 at 12:34 PM Post #15 of 16
I stream music through a Chromecast audio and I use the optical for it. The CD is a transport, not a player so it doesn't have an onboard DAC.
That makes sense. I understand your dilemma now. One option could be to go all optical using a Toslink selector allowing connection of both Chromecast and CD to the DAC optically. Not the most elegant solution, but a solution nevertheless.

In any case, static will be gone soon
Let's hope so.
 

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