[wallijonn]

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Originally Posted by rsaavedra Character development of Anakin was bad, very trivialized imho. For an advanced Jedi it should have been more much troublesome to even consider switching to the dark side.

Anakin was in love, so it wasn't as if he could think straight from the start. What he didn't consider was the fact that his nightmares were planted by the Sith Lord, Sidious. What drove him was his love and the fear of losing his beloved, which is why he so easily became jealous of Obiwan. The choking of his wife was a natural outcome of his jealousy as he was 'seeing red'.

 

[wallijonn]

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Originally Posted by archosman I could not figure out why Palpatine told Anakin that he killed Padme.

Remorse and guilt are fuel for the dark side.

 

[Jahn]

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Originally Posted by wallijonn Remorse and guilt are fuel for the dark side.

yep, it tied him to the Dark Side. if you feel that there is no way to resist anymore, that there is no chance for redemption, that even the people you care about would condemn you if you reached out to them for hope (killing your wife would tend to put you in that mindset) - there's nowhere to go but Down=The Dark Side.

 

[acs236]

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Originally Posted by Jahn yep, it tied him to the Dark Side. if you feel that there is no way to resist anymore, that there is no chance for redemption, that even the people you care about would condemn you if you reached out to them for hope (killing your wife would tend to put you in that mindset) - there's nowhere to go but Down=The Dark Side.

But by that scene Anakin was safely in/on the darkside. What the film needed is to better develop his turn to the darkside.

 

[Jahn]

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Originally Posted by acs236 But by that scene Anakin was safely in/on the darkside. What the film needed is to better develop his turn to the darkside.

Nah, Anakin walked through the door and was in the hotel, but the Emp had to make sure that Anakin could never leave - that last bit about Padme turned the key and locked the door. But after seeing Luke get fried in "Jedi" he found out that he could jump out a window to get out of the building - tho the window was on the 23rd floor...

 

[wallijonn]

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Originally Posted by Jahn if you feel that there is no way to resist anymore, that there is no chance for redemption, that even the people you care about would condemn you if you reached out to them for hope (killing your wife would tend to put you in that mindset) - there's nowhere to go but Down.

Anakin could care less. All he knew was that there was no way for him to save his mother. He didn't want to lose someone else he loved. So if billions of people died, so what? All he was thinking about was keeping Padme from dying. He knew that she would probably die in childbirth, so how does he not lose her? Sidious was his only hope and damn the consequences - whole star systems could die for all he cared, so long as his beloved did not die.

 

[mjg]

anakin sold his soul for a jello pudding snack.

what non-sense i tell ya.

 

[Salt Peanuts]

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Originally Posted by acs236 But by that scene Anakin was safely in/on the darkside. What the film needed is to better develop his turn to the darkside.

I agree. And better lines for most of the cast, especially Natalie Portman.

 

[Ttvetjanu]

In episode 6 Princess Leila says that she remembers her mother as being beautiful (when Luke and Leila find out that they are siblings and talk about it). Yet, her mother died when she gave birth to them, almost instantly after. It does not make sense that she could remember her mother from baby age, or does it?

 

[mjg]

It seems odd, but remember... She's got some force, and can see weird things... Then there is george lucas, and whatever he thinks makes sense happens, so let me put on my agreeable shirt and say, well if it's good for george lucas, i'm stupid and accept it.

 

[Jahn]

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Originally Posted by Ttvetjanu In episode 6 Princess Leila says that she remembers her mother as being beautiful (when Luke and Leila find out that they are siblings and talk about it). Yet, her mother died when she gave birth to them, almost instantly after. It does not make sense that she could remember her mother from baby age, or does it?

she was probably thinking about her adopted mother - jimmy smits' wife.

 

[mjg]

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Originally Posted by Jahn she was probably thinking about her adopted mother - jimmy smits' wife.

She grew up with them, she was talking about her real mother, natalie portman.

 

[Jahn]

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Originally Posted by mjg She grew up with them, she was talking about her real mother, natalie portman.

ah, it would have made sense if Mrs. Jimmy Smits had died when Leia was 3 or something, and Leia confused her with her real mother..as if Padme actually remarried with Jimmy, like Anakin's mom shacked up with that moisture farmer. Leia could have been confused.

But I like the "Force" idea better - that as a kid Leia just had an innate ability to channel all those midochlorians and was able to "see" Padme's ghost when she was young.

 

[Feanor]

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Originally Posted by Ttvetjanu In episode 6 Princess Leila says that she remembers her mother as being beautiful (when Luke and Leila find out that they are siblings and talk about it). Yet, her mother died when she gave birth to them, almost instantly after. It does not make sense that she could remember her mother from baby age, or does it?

ummm, maybe she saw pictures?

 

[devwild]

I don't rember where, but I am fairly certain this "memory" is discussed elsewhere in the star wars universe as being linked to Leia's force powers like mentioned above.

Really it doesn't matter though.