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Sound Magic PL12
Well there has been a lot of talk about the SoundMagic Pl30s but not much on the lesser-numbered models. Recently I was looking for a back-up IEM for my Phonak Audeo PFEs. I thought about Creative Ep-630s (which I used to own) Creative Ep 830s or Head-Direct RE2... however in the end I took a punt a picked up the bargain basement £8 (delivered) SoundMagic PL12s. Out of the box I wasn't really blown away with the sound, but I felt there was more inside. So here's my pre-mod + post mod review.
Just for reference, most of this review was done listening to my Samsung P3 using 256kbit MP3s for the most part. I sometimes used my Fiio E3 as well. I also own a set of Phonak PFEs, Super.Fi 3s and Koss KSC75s.
Out Of The Box:
Well my initial impressions was wow, comes with lots of accessories. Hell the included headphone winder, carry pouch and detachable clip (to help reduce cable noise) could set you back £8 alone. (an accessory pack with free headphones?)
I had literally been listening to my KSC75s (kramer modded) when the postman hit the door bell. When I plugged them in, I was surprised by the sound, it was pretty bad. Big lower-mid emphasis, grainy and muddled. Bass was scarce and sounded very blah, and the highs weren't very present. However, the included medium were a good fit; comfortable & the sound isolation passed the 'walk-through-central-London' test. Already I didn't feel ripped off, but man they took some serious EQing to sound decent.
So as I got to work I let them play for the rest of the day in my locker. 8 hours later...
Let me tell you, if you don't believe in 'burn-in' these headphones will change your mind. They really sounded different, much more open and less grainy and muddled. When I got home I switched to the flange tips (included) and found the bass impact to be much better. My only other experience with flanges were on my SF3s, and I found them very painful and unpleasant. This time however the flanges felt just fine.
The Samsung P3 has a 'clarity' enhancement in its DSNe settings, as well as bass boost and customizable EQ – very comparable to the BBE effects on Cowon players (I used to own a D2, the two effects are very similar.) These took the enhancements very well, increasing the punch of the bass and overall clarity. I don't use such enhancements on my PFEs, but heck, they are like 12x the price.
Okay, listening to the EQ flat with my Fiio E3, here's my analysis after 8 hours burn in.
Bass – Without EQ there ain't much bass, but what's there isn't bad quality. Its reasonably tight and sinks low enough without being too tubby. For £8 not bad. However most people will need to use an EQ to get it to a punchy, fun level.
Mids – Very recessed. Guitars and lead instruments sound pretty grainy & lack realism. Vocals sound distant, but are warm enough to satisfy most people. Singers don't have that intensity you find in balanced armature drivers, but again, I remind you of the price.
Highs – Probably the weakest point. Highs are rolled off and the realism just isn't there. Thankfully they aren't painful and clangy, just a bit nowhere. Also sibilance is quite well controlled.
Soundstage – Not bad for IEMs. On a 2D plane (up down left right) they hold there own with any other IEM, but the 3RD dimension (forward and back) are muddled or just non-existent. This is hardly unusual though. One thing I will say is that the soundstage is remarkably wide: wider than any other IEM I've owned.
Comfort, Isolation and Built Quality – Comfort is good, if you are familiar with IEMs then these will suit you just fine. Not as comfy as some, but better than my SF3s, which cost 8x more. Isolation is good, again as good as any basic set of in ear phones (CX300s etc) Build quality is hard to say at this early stage but they seem pretty good. As my next-cheapest can, my KSC75s beat the un-modded PL12s hands down, in every respect, except sound isolation of course.
Part 2.
Well, long story short, I started fiddling around with them because they sound wasn't really doing it for me. I tried opening them up to let some air in behind the drivers: big mistake, they sounded terrible. Next I noticed how thick and weird looking the 'grill' is that closes the 'pipe' where the sound comes out. So I removed it: instant improvement. But still the sound was too distant and unrefined. So I used a Stanley knife and shortened the tube. This was inspired by two things. One, the Kramer Shure E2c mod where you shave down the tube. Also I looked at pictures of the PL30s (2x price of Pl12s) and noticed the tube was a lot shorter.
After cutting the thinner part of the tube you lose the part which the tips sit on. So you have to stretch the bi-flanges over the thicker part of the tube. Unfortunately with this mod you can't really use the normal tips because when they are stretched out the fit is too small and a bit painful, but the bi-flanges work really well.
Overall the sound is almost completely different. The final part of the mod involved slipping a very small piece of foam in the tunnel so protect the drivers and control the sound a little. This last part is definitely optional. Keep the foam as small and thin as possible, is my tip.
The two things that really change are the bass and mids. If the PL30s sound anything like this I think I understand what all the fuss is about! The bass is deep, with nice impact, with the right blend of boom and tight doof (excuse the descriptions, I'm doing my best!) The mids are very very warm, very coloured but sound really good. Guitars are gooey and intense, vocals are forward and well presented. Soundstage is weaker, the previously wide soundstage is been narrowed, and its still a little muddled, but hey, can't have it all right?
Treble is recessed which is probably a good thing, since when EQed in it sounds tinny and bad. Obviously these babies are tuned for bass & mids. They sound great with a flat EQ, some may even find the bass a bit too heavy. The thing I can't believe is just how different they sound, its like a completely different pair of 'phones. They have gone from being a pair that I wouldn't have really bothered using to a pair that have rightfully earned their place alongside my higher-end models.
If you are thinking about this mod, a couple of points:
Don't do it if you don't like bi-flanges.
Don't do it if you like the stock sound.
They don't sound analytical at all, the sound is coloured as hell. But in a good way.
It will naturally void your warranty.
Be careful stretching the flanges over the thicker piping – they rip easily.
Pics to come if anyone is interested. Thanks for reading.
Well there has been a lot of talk about the SoundMagic Pl30s but not much on the lesser-numbered models. Recently I was looking for a back-up IEM for my Phonak Audeo PFEs. I thought about Creative Ep-630s (which I used to own) Creative Ep 830s or Head-Direct RE2... however in the end I took a punt a picked up the bargain basement £8 (delivered) SoundMagic PL12s. Out of the box I wasn't really blown away with the sound, but I felt there was more inside. So here's my pre-mod + post mod review.
Just for reference, most of this review was done listening to my Samsung P3 using 256kbit MP3s for the most part. I sometimes used my Fiio E3 as well. I also own a set of Phonak PFEs, Super.Fi 3s and Koss KSC75s.
Out Of The Box:
Well my initial impressions was wow, comes with lots of accessories. Hell the included headphone winder, carry pouch and detachable clip (to help reduce cable noise) could set you back £8 alone. (an accessory pack with free headphones?)
I had literally been listening to my KSC75s (kramer modded) when the postman hit the door bell. When I plugged them in, I was surprised by the sound, it was pretty bad. Big lower-mid emphasis, grainy and muddled. Bass was scarce and sounded very blah, and the highs weren't very present. However, the included medium were a good fit; comfortable & the sound isolation passed the 'walk-through-central-London' test. Already I didn't feel ripped off, but man they took some serious EQing to sound decent.
So as I got to work I let them play for the rest of the day in my locker. 8 hours later...
Let me tell you, if you don't believe in 'burn-in' these headphones will change your mind. They really sounded different, much more open and less grainy and muddled. When I got home I switched to the flange tips (included) and found the bass impact to be much better. My only other experience with flanges were on my SF3s, and I found them very painful and unpleasant. This time however the flanges felt just fine.
The Samsung P3 has a 'clarity' enhancement in its DSNe settings, as well as bass boost and customizable EQ – very comparable to the BBE effects on Cowon players (I used to own a D2, the two effects are very similar.) These took the enhancements very well, increasing the punch of the bass and overall clarity. I don't use such enhancements on my PFEs, but heck, they are like 12x the price.
Okay, listening to the EQ flat with my Fiio E3, here's my analysis after 8 hours burn in.
Bass – Without EQ there ain't much bass, but what's there isn't bad quality. Its reasonably tight and sinks low enough without being too tubby. For £8 not bad. However most people will need to use an EQ to get it to a punchy, fun level.
Mids – Very recessed. Guitars and lead instruments sound pretty grainy & lack realism. Vocals sound distant, but are warm enough to satisfy most people. Singers don't have that intensity you find in balanced armature drivers, but again, I remind you of the price.
Highs – Probably the weakest point. Highs are rolled off and the realism just isn't there. Thankfully they aren't painful and clangy, just a bit nowhere. Also sibilance is quite well controlled.
Soundstage – Not bad for IEMs. On a 2D plane (up down left right) they hold there own with any other IEM, but the 3RD dimension (forward and back) are muddled or just non-existent. This is hardly unusual though. One thing I will say is that the soundstage is remarkably wide: wider than any other IEM I've owned.
Comfort, Isolation and Built Quality – Comfort is good, if you are familiar with IEMs then these will suit you just fine. Not as comfy as some, but better than my SF3s, which cost 8x more. Isolation is good, again as good as any basic set of in ear phones (CX300s etc) Build quality is hard to say at this early stage but they seem pretty good. As my next-cheapest can, my KSC75s beat the un-modded PL12s hands down, in every respect, except sound isolation of course.
Part 2.
Well, long story short, I started fiddling around with them because they sound wasn't really doing it for me. I tried opening them up to let some air in behind the drivers: big mistake, they sounded terrible. Next I noticed how thick and weird looking the 'grill' is that closes the 'pipe' where the sound comes out. So I removed it: instant improvement. But still the sound was too distant and unrefined. So I used a Stanley knife and shortened the tube. This was inspired by two things. One, the Kramer Shure E2c mod where you shave down the tube. Also I looked at pictures of the PL30s (2x price of Pl12s) and noticed the tube was a lot shorter.
After cutting the thinner part of the tube you lose the part which the tips sit on. So you have to stretch the bi-flanges over the thicker part of the tube. Unfortunately with this mod you can't really use the normal tips because when they are stretched out the fit is too small and a bit painful, but the bi-flanges work really well.
Overall the sound is almost completely different. The final part of the mod involved slipping a very small piece of foam in the tunnel so protect the drivers and control the sound a little. This last part is definitely optional. Keep the foam as small and thin as possible, is my tip.
The two things that really change are the bass and mids. If the PL30s sound anything like this I think I understand what all the fuss is about! The bass is deep, with nice impact, with the right blend of boom and tight doof (excuse the descriptions, I'm doing my best!) The mids are very very warm, very coloured but sound really good. Guitars are gooey and intense, vocals are forward and well presented. Soundstage is weaker, the previously wide soundstage is been narrowed, and its still a little muddled, but hey, can't have it all right?
Treble is recessed which is probably a good thing, since when EQed in it sounds tinny and bad. Obviously these babies are tuned for bass & mids. They sound great with a flat EQ, some may even find the bass a bit too heavy. The thing I can't believe is just how different they sound, its like a completely different pair of 'phones. They have gone from being a pair that I wouldn't have really bothered using to a pair that have rightfully earned their place alongside my higher-end models.
If you are thinking about this mod, a couple of points:
Don't do it if you don't like bi-flanges.
Don't do it if you like the stock sound.
They don't sound analytical at all, the sound is coloured as hell. But in a good way.
It will naturally void your warranty.
Be careful stretching the flanges over the thicker piping – they rip easily.
Pics to come if anyone is interested. Thanks for reading.
