Sound change at all removing the Grado "button"?

Sep 3, 2005 at 7:30 AM Thread Starter Post #1 of 21

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I'm thinking of removing the SR-60 button on my Grado's mainly for aesthetic reasons. Wondering if this would change the sound at all? The only logical thing I can think of is the soundstage opening up ever so slightly (probably not even noticable).

I tried searching for how people did this any couldn't find anything, any tips? Thanks in advance
 
Sep 3, 2005 at 7:55 AM Post #2 of 21
Most reports point to nada. A lot of people have tried it, and have heard no difference.
 
Sep 3, 2005 at 10:51 AM Post #4 of 21
I remember reading about this by I think LARRY at Headphile But am not sure anyway the button is directly behind the center of the back of the driver and has no affect on the sound with or with out the button.
 
Sep 3, 2005 at 10:53 AM Post #5 of 21
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Originally Posted by Ttvetjanu
very very very slight opening of the sound. Barely noticable, only if you really try to concentrate on it.


seconded.
 
Sep 3, 2005 at 12:43 PM Post #6 of 21
Do it only if you can open up the cup completely, as there is a large amount of glue underneath which will be hard to take off if the cup isnt opened and the grill removed.
 
Sep 3, 2005 at 3:40 PM Post #7 of 21
Strictly theoretically, anything that can reflect sound back to (and, depending on the construction, through) the driver will cause an apparent high-end rise. It's worth it to do some experimenting, since many people feel Grados are bright. Keep in mind that the Grado driver already has a fairly dense damping pad over its vents, so chances are that any changes you'll get will be slight.

I agree that removing the grille is likely to produce a larger change than removing the button. The button, by the way, is held on by hot glue, and pulling it off may or may not tear a small hole in the grille-- no damage done soundwise, although of course the aesthetics (?) suffer and small creatures can get in to make nests.

Now, if you place discs of paper over the grille and listen, you will probably hear the highs start to increase, depending on how many paper discs you use and how dense the paper is. If you think Grados tend toward the bright, you'll probably prefer them grille-less, although again, the change is likely to be slight.

While we're on the subject, it would be interesting to hear how much the bass would be affected (theoretically it would smooth and increase the low bass) by extending the rear cup outward with tubing or pipe.
 
Sep 3, 2005 at 4:32 PM Post #8 of 21
i removed the buttons from my sr225 and as many have said, it doesn't seem to make a difference. without a second pair to compare against, i can't say definitively that it didn't make a difference but at least not enough for me to notice. if you're not taking them apart then don't bother with it since you're going to have a hard time getting all of the glue off.
 
Sep 4, 2005 at 1:18 AM Post #9 of 21
perhaps i should've offered some substantiation as evidence for my post..
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i used to own the ms-2. one day i did a simple experiment. i fashioned some 'buttons' out of blutack and switched output to dual mono and then tried listening for differences. it's true, the highs become slightly less harsh and the upper midrange sounds less 'shouty' without the buttons.

however, as someone pointed out earlier, this is a very subtle effect. you would have to be looking out for this to notice it - however once you do, it's like the spot on the mirror - you cant help but notice it each and every time now.
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Sep 4, 2005 at 8:14 AM Post #13 of 21
i love the look of the allesandro grados.
wouldnt removing the whole grille make a bigger difference?
i plan on changing the grille on my ms1 as soon as i can find a suitable material...
 
Sep 4, 2005 at 2:02 PM Post #14 of 21
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Originally Posted by Jashugan
Do it only if you can open up the cup completely, as there is a large amount of glue underneath which will be hard to take off if the cup isnt opened and the grill removed.


Mine, which was on the left side dropped off when i touched it. Barely any glue underneath (couldnt see any, but it was stuck so....).
 
Sep 5, 2005 at 6:35 AM Post #15 of 21
I can confirm that IT IS difficult to get the badge off! I used a pair of pliers on the left badge of my SR-60. The result was a little hole due to the broken plastic grill...

Anyways, after that I felt reluctant to attempt to take the right badge off. Now it looks a little weird.
 

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