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Sep 8, 2020 at 11:39 AM Post #44,416 of 45,723
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Sep 8, 2020 at 11:48 AM Post #44,417 of 45,723
Well...........just went over to 1A/1Z++ as I want to make sure I’m not missing anything using 1A/1Z+ exclusively? The 1.4 edition was also something I haven’t tried. Played around with the AI enhancement on the few MP3s I have..........tried AI on some 24bit files I use. The reduction of top and bottom soundstage is interesting none the less. And yes, 1A/1Z++ has a detailed clarity, which may come from the concentrated imaging?

Probably what’s fascinating is how the soundstage on the two firmwares is so absolutely different. Much personal success with either might depend on both IEMs/headphones and personal goals.

Also maybe it’s just me, but 1A/1Z++ seemed to have slightly less bass than 1A/1Z+? I’m using a U region 1Z stock switched to “J” region.

The model switcher was a cool feature though the 1A model switch from the units stock model was again another reduction in bass.

So after doing the return to stock return program I then put back the original first edition of MrWalkmans 1A/Z+ 3.02. Normally I will put regular Sony 3.02 first on the return but this time I didn’t, and it sounds great as always.

It’s good to be home again. Though I have to say there is no right or wrong with this stuff. Thank you MrWalkman for all the choices!

Nice!

With the 1.3 and 1.4 versions you don't need to use the "back to stock" stuff by the way :)
 
Sep 8, 2020 at 11:53 AM Post #44,418 of 45,723
Nice!

With the 1.3 and 1.4 versions you don't need to use the "back to stock" stuff by the way :)

You mean you can put 1.3 and 1.4 on top of anything, but earlier you need stock? Or you don’t have to go back to stock before putting on an older version, if you used 1.3 or 1.4? To tell you the truth my 1Z has never sounded better so I wonder going from the “Return to Stock MrWalkman Firmware” then going straight to 1A/1Z+........made a difference? Wild?
 
Sep 8, 2020 at 11:53 AM Post #44,419 of 45,723
Well...........just went over to 1A/1Z++ as I want to make sure I’m not missing anything using 1A/1Z+ exclusively? The 1.4 edition was also something I haven’t tried. Played around with the AI enhancement on the few MP3s I have..........tried AI on some 24bit files I use. The reduction of top and bottom soundstage is interesting none the less. And yes, 1A/1Z++ has a detailed clarity, which may come from the concentrated imaging?

Probably what’s fascinating is how the soundstage on the two firmwares is so absolutely different. Much personal success with either might depend on both IEMs/headphones and personal goals.

Also maybe it’s just me, but 1A/1Z++ seemed to have slightly less bass than 1A/1Z+? I’m using a U region 1Z stock switched to “J” region.

The model switcher was a cool feature though the 1A model switch from the units stock model was again another reduction in bass.

So after doing the return to stock return program I then put back the original first edition of MrWalkmans 1A/Z+ 3.02. Normally I will put regular Sony 3.02 first on the return but this time I didn’t, and it sounds great as always.

It’s good to be home again. Though I have to say there is no right or wrong with this stuff. Thank you MrWalkman for all the choices!
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Something like the vocals here and soundstage found here are an example I’m back with the right firmware.
But as far as I know the only difference between the + and ++ versions are the increased volume. Nothing else was tuned differently or adjusted. Isn’t that right @MrWalkman ? So maybe you’re hearing less bass as a result of higher volume output?
 
Sep 8, 2020 at 11:55 AM Post #44,420 of 45,723
But as far as I know the only difference between the + and ++ versions are the increased volume. Nothing else was tuned differently or adjusted. Isn’t that right @MrWalkman ? So maybe you’re hearing less bass as a result of higher volume output?
I’m using a 1Z, but no......way way different in soundstage.
 
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Sep 8, 2020 at 12:03 PM Post #44,421 of 45,723
You mean you can put 1.3 and 1.4 on top of anything, but earlier you need stock? Or you don’t have to go back to stock before putting on an older version, if you used 1.3 or 1.4? To tell you the truth my 1Z has never sounded better so I wonder going from the “Return to Stock MrWalkman Firmware” then going straight to 1A/1Z+........made a difference? Wild?

Back to stock was only made to also restore the certificate images. The 1.3 and 1.4 versions are no longer modifying the certificate images, so installing stock will just do, if you wish to go back to stock.

But as far as I know the only difference between the + and ++ versions are the increased volume. Nothing else was tuned differently or adjusted. Isn’t that right @MrWalkman ? So maybe you’re hearing less bass as a result of higher volume output?

The intention was only the increased volume, but maybe there are some trade-offs, like the less bass thing - which I really like it, it sounds great with the Z7M2 and the XBA-Z5.

Will experiment with some other combinations these days, but no promises about anything.
 
Sep 8, 2020 at 12:08 PM Post #44,422 of 45,723
Back to stock was only made to also restore the certificate images. The 1.3 and 1.4 versions are no longer modifying the certificate images, so installing stock will just do, if you wish to go back to stock.



The intention was only the increased volume, but maybe there are some trade-offs, like the less bass thing - which I really like it, it sounds great with the Z7M2 and the XBA-Z5.

Will experiment with some other combinations these days, but no promises about anything.

Wow. They sound like very different firmwares to me. The imaging is totally different? I’m so confused, but in a good way? I totally can see why someone would want a little bass clarity with the MK2 Z7 and XBA-Z5, though.

By the way as this is the third or fourth time I’ve gone back and and tried the 1A/1Z++. It has always been with the same results characters......so it’s no accident?
 
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Sep 8, 2020 at 12:16 PM Post #44,425 of 45,723
It isn't.

Check out the FULL answer before jumping the gun.



Sonywalkmanuser said he couldn't capture ZX507 flickering using 960FPS on his Sony smartphone. So in order to capture flickering on the ZX507, he'll need specialise equipment because it is obviously flickering at a rate that is above 960FPS, in which case not many consumer equipment is able to do so unless you have an expensive high speed camera setup - which is specialise equipment.

I'll leave the rest of your post because you obviously didn't read nor digest any of it.

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Sep 8, 2020 at 12:26 PM Post #44,426 of 45,723
From my observations Mr Walkman's + and ++ versions are good for in-house hearing. Solis 3.02 is best for walking - I just returned from 5 km walk :)

Nice. Interestingly enough, the sound differences brought by tuning mods are smaller than those brought by the modded firmwares, but the Solis sound seemed forced to me.
 
Sep 8, 2020 at 12:29 PM Post #44,427 of 45,723
Back to stock was only made to also restore the certificate images. The 1.3 and 1.4 versions are no longer modifying the certificate images, so installing stock will just do, if you wish to go back to stock.



The intention was only the increased volume, but maybe there are some trade-offs, like the less bass thing - which I really like it, it sounds great with the Z7M2 and the XBA-Z5.

Will experiment with some other combinations these days, but no promises about anything.
But if it’s only the volume difference there shouldn’t be any soundstage difference if we volume match? So this means ++ is a different tuning? Otherwise with volume matching there shouldn’t be a difference at all.
 
Sep 8, 2020 at 12:41 PM Post #44,430 of 45,723
But if it’s only the volume difference there shouldn’t be any soundstage difference if we volume match? So this means ++ is a different tuning? Otherwise with volume matching there shouldn’t be a difference at all.

The volume was the only intention, but I also noticed the less present bass, for example. Feel free to give it a listen yourself and see what you hear, of course.
 
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