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Jul 10, 2020 at 3:33 PM Post #40,652 of 45,723
i returned to stock 3.02 , clean my ears and do a little detox of all those FWs

so many FWs to play with , picking which FW to test next feels like picking random numbers for a bingo game :xf_cool:
I'm still on J 3.02 and don't even know where to start.
 
Jul 10, 2020 at 3:43 PM Post #40,653 of 45,723
I'm still on J 3.02 and don't even know where to start.

i used to think that 3.02 is kinda lean with my Zeus XR but i got a new cable 4 months ago, that injected the lows with much needed punch so now i feel like it's a great FW

again , synergy is king in this hobby.
 
Jul 10, 2020 at 4:15 PM Post #40,654 of 45,723
i used to think that 3.02 is kinda lean with my Zeus XR but i got a new cable 4 months ago, that injected the lows with much needed punch so now i feel like it's a great FW

again , synergy is king in this hobby.
That's part of my problem as I am in the process of changing iems and also have acquired a new cable for my overheads which has had a significant impact on the sound - there are so many variables, I think that's why I'm trying to stay stable with J 3.02, then when I settle on gear I can go from there.
 
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Jul 10, 2020 at 4:19 PM Post #40,655 of 45,723
i used to think that 3.02 is kinda lean with my Zeus XR but i got a new cable 4 months ago, that injected the lows with much needed punch so now i feel like it's a great FW

again , synergy is king in this hobby.

Eh that's great, same story happened to me and my 8 braid cable. It brought this roaring sub-bass that did not exist before. Now I am faced with a new issue: the cable is too thick to be portable. It slaps my body when I walk and I can hear it very clearly. I need a clip on the Y-split.
 
Jul 10, 2020 at 6:01 PM Post #40,656 of 45,723
i returned to stock 3.02 , clean my ears and do a little detox of all those FWs

so many FWs to play with , picking which FW to test next feels like picking random numbers for a bingo game :xf_cool:


If you're like me, you will start to miss the buttery mids that only Venus 2 & 3 seem to provide. Try Venus 3 with CA region for a little more balanced sound than J. I think you will really like it.
 
Jul 10, 2020 at 6:44 PM Post #40,657 of 45,723
If you're like me, you will start to miss the buttery mids that only Venus 2 & 3 seem to provide. Try Venus 3 with CA region for a little more balanced sound than J. I think you will really like it.


i try to write down which FWs i used when and how they sounded , keeping a frame of reference (stock wm1a on J region)

regarding Venus 2/3 i see some thoughts on them , but i will try them again i love nice mids as i feel like they are the backbone of the music :xf_cool:

06.03 venus T2(universal always)-got some sibilance
11.03 Mercury T3(universal) LIKED IT A LOT
11.03 Jupiter T3 FELING PLASTIC AND HOLLOW
12.03 SOLIS T5
16.03 3.02 LEAN BASS CONTROLLED
16.03 Mercury T2
18.03 3.01 Walkman 1A jupiter T1 (Universal) I GET SiBILANCE
28.03 DMP-Z1 1.02
05.04 Mercury T3
14.04 Venus T1 (not great)
14.04 Mars T2
15.04 3.02 Autumn (nice full sound , great bass)
15.04 3.02 Spring (very nice)
25.04 avlos
26.04 WM1Az
30.05 orion 5 (very good)
11/06 Venus T3 (very good)
06/07 OrionV2_S6A_1
09/07 Orion_S7A_1
10/07 3.02
 
Jul 10, 2020 at 7:02 PM Post #40,658 of 45,723
i try to write down which FWs i used when and how they sounded , keeping a frame of reference (stock wm1a on J region)

regarding Venus 2/3 i see some thoughts on them , but i will try them again i love nice mids as i feel like they are the backbone of the music :xf_cool:

06.03 venus T2(universal always)-got some sibilance
11.03 Mercury T3(universal) LIKED IT A LOT
11.03 Jupiter T3 FELING PLASTIC AND HOLLOW
12.03 SOLIS T5
16.03 3.02 LEAN BASS CONTROLLED
16.03 Mercury T2
18.03 3.01 Walkman 1A jupiter T1 (Universal) I GET SiBILANCE
28.03 DMP-Z1 1.02
05.04 Mercury T3
14.04 Venus T1 (not great)
14.04 Mars T2
15.04 3.02 Autumn (nice full sound , great bass)
15.04 3.02 Spring (very nice)
25.04 avlos
26.04 WM1Az
30.05 orion 5 (very good)
11/06 Venus T3 (very good)
06/07 OrionV2_S6A_1
09/07 Orion_S7A_1
10/07 3.02

I used WM1+Z on a WM1A switched to 1Z for some time and I really keep liking it. It's just so listenable for long periods of time.

WM1+Z is based on some TA-ZH1ES tuning codes.
 
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Jul 10, 2020 at 7:23 PM Post #40,659 of 45,723
i try to write down which FWs i used when and how they sounded , keeping a frame of reference (stock wm1a on J region)

regarding Venus 2/3 i see some thoughts on them , but i will try them again i love nice mids as i feel like they are the backbone of the music :xf_cool:

06.03 venus T2(universal always)-got some sibilance
11.03 Mercury T3(universal) LIKED IT A LOT
11.03 Jupiter T3 FELING PLASTIC AND HOLLOW
12.03 SOLIS T5
16.03 3.02 LEAN BASS CONTROLLED
16.03 Mercury T2
18.03 3.01 Walkman 1A jupiter T1 (Universal) I GET SiBILANCE
28.03 DMP-Z1 1.02
05.04 Mercury T3
14.04 Venus T1 (not great)
14.04 Mars T2
15.04 3.02 Autumn (nice full sound , great bass)
15.04 3.02 Spring (very nice)
25.04 avlos
26.04 WM1Az
30.05 orion 5 (very good)
11/06 Venus T3 (very good)
06/07 OrionV2_S6A_1
09/07 Orion_S7A_1
10/07 3.02


I agree that the mids are the backbone of the music. When I design speakers, if the mids don't come together I usually scrap the design and start over. When playing with firmware, I think of FW as a coarse voicing adjustment, and then fine tune with region changes. Whoever took the time to develop the Region chart did a great job. I find their interpretation to be spot-on.
 
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Jul 10, 2020 at 7:36 PM Post #40,660 of 45,723
I agree that the mids are the backbone of the music. When I design speakers, if the mids don't come together I usually scrap the design and start over. When playing with firmware, I think of FW as a coarse voicing adjustment, and then fine tune with region changes. Whoever took the time to develop the Region chart did a great job. I find their interpretation to be spot-on.

Yes, WM1+Z (or TA-ZH1ES tuning codes) have really nice mids in my opinion.
 
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Jul 10, 2020 at 11:38 PM Post #40,661 of 45,723
Seee told you how good 1z is 😉😊

I am glad you love it.

I start to love my 1Z too, 50 hours (Pretty Young Thing) , still long way to go, enjoy the listening while burning 🔥. Have a sweet weekend guys.

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Jul 11, 2020 at 10:47 AM Post #40,662 of 45,723
Hi,

One question? I am considering to upgrade my 4.4 cable for my Sony MDR-1am2 from stock cable to this one:

https://www.ebay.de/itm/OCC-4-4mm-B...rand=Unbranded&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851


Has someone tried this cable? Will it really bring an audible upgrade vs the stock cable?

I am aware that it is not a Kimber Cable. But I spent 120 EUR for the headphones and in my opinion it is not reasonable to spend more for the cable as for the headphones... Rather I will upgrade the headphones someday....

In principle I am very happy with the current setup WM1A and MDR-1am2. But if the cable would be a significant further improvement ...


Thanks in advance for your feedback. I am curious on that!

Best
 
Jul 11, 2020 at 10:55 AM Post #40,663 of 45,723
Hi,

One question? I am considering to upgrade my 4.4 cable for my Sony MDR-1am2 from stock cable to this one:

https://www.ebay.de/itm/OCC-4-4mm-Balance-Headphone-cable-For-Sony-TA-ZH1ES-NW-WM1Z-WM1A-ZX300A-PHA-2A/253983609078?_trkparms=aid=1110006&algo=HOMESPLICE.SIM&ao=1&asc=20200520130048&meid=232c8ee84fca4ea78c7f53a1007cbab8&pid=100005&rk=5&rkt=12&mehot=co&sd=312322192145&itm=253983609078&pmt=1&noa=0&pg=2047675&algv=SimplAMLv5PairwiseWebWithBBEV2bDemotion&brand=Unbranded&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851


Has someone tried this cable? Will it really bring an audible upgrade vs the stock cable?

I am aware that it is not a Kimber Cable. But I spent 120 EUR for the headphones and in my opinion it is not reasonable to spend more for the cable as for the headphones... Rather I will upgrade the headphones someday....

In principle I am very happy with the current setup WM1A and MDR-1am2. But if the cable would be a significant further improvement ...


Thanks in advance for your feedback. I am curious on that!

Best
Cables are a tricky subject, and answers will range from "makes no difference whatsoever" to "incredible upgrade, night and day difference" on the same item. I'm afraid there's no way around trying for yourself if you really want to know if it's worth it for you. Sorry not to be more helpful.
 
Jul 11, 2020 at 11:15 AM Post #40,664 of 45,723
Hi,

One question? I am considering to upgrade my 4.4 cable for my Sony MDR-1am2 from stock cable to this one:

https://www.ebay.de/itm/OCC-4-4mm-Balance-Headphone-cable-For-Sony-TA-ZH1ES-NW-WM1Z-WM1A-ZX300A-PHA-2A/253983609078?_trkparms=aid=1110006&algo=HOMESPLICE.SIM&ao=1&asc=20200520130048&meid=232c8ee84fca4ea78c7f53a1007cbab8&pid=100005&rk=5&rkt=12&mehot=co&sd=312322192145&itm=253983609078&pmt=1&noa=0&pg=2047675&algv=SimplAMLv5PairwiseWebWithBBEV2bDemotion&brand=Unbranded&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851


Has someone tried this cable? Will it really bring an audible upgrade vs the stock cable?

I am aware that it is not a Kimber Cable. But I spent 120 EUR for the headphones and in my opinion it is not reasonable to spend more for the cable as for the headphones... Rather I will upgrade the headphones someday....

In principle I am very happy with the current setup WM1A and MDR-1am2. But if the cable would be a significant further improvement ...


Thanks in advance for your feedback. I am curious on that!

Best


It looks like a very good idea and it has an interesting concept too. material wise its highly specked, now how is the cable built inside the strands and solder type and the connectors will also affect sound quality, you can give it a try if you dont like it well you lost 66 usd haha
 
Jul 11, 2020 at 11:18 AM Post #40,665 of 45,723
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Oops :smiling_imp:

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Edit: It seems that we're dealing with a dual-core Mediatek CPU here.

Great find! I guess it's not much of a hindrance, as it only as to deal with a presumably rather light and efficient proprietary OS that's pretty much limited to reproducing music. So far, I'm loving how the wm1a works. It feels snappy enough to me.
 
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