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Mar 29, 2020 at 4:44 PM Post #35,312 of 45,723
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Mar 29, 2020 at 8:01 PM Post #35,314 of 45,723
so many FWs to play with/choose from, the fun never stops

i am now on DMP-Z1 1.02 on my stock wm1a , first time to try it actually and i think yeah it's better than stock 3.01

maybe placebo , but the sound seems clearer (in a good way) and the soundstage opened up (this is no placbo i am sure)
No its not placebo DMP-Z1 1.02 its much wider than stock 3.01 i encourage you to try 3.00 region MX then the rest... on your stock 1A if you use direct mode i would go any plannet.... or solis 302
 
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Mar 29, 2020 at 9:19 PM Post #35,315 of 45,723
Yea I feel that to that hes English is less good I managed to make it hehe

My fourte noir is very warm and thick by nature and pw1960 4wires cable is warm as well and good flavor. I feel sensation cable could balance things out.

Worse Case scenario I will send it back and request pw1960 cables !

What mod you getting?

I change the 4.4 female for a new one and new battery.

Change wires on battery and on balanced and se to 8wires.

And 18 bg caps as he cant change all of them thats 60% of 1z caps.

Add copper shield on all chips parts... as he removes the copper plate!
Congrats @Vitaly2017 and @Morbideath for your new mod! Let's share when you get it back!
 
Mar 29, 2020 at 9:28 PM Post #35,316 of 45,723
But isn't altering the original sound signature the whole point of modding? Or do you mean that you think it will butcher it?
Only thing I will tell you is that I can hear diferences In:
Cable specially cheap ones... dont have much experience on expensive ones.
Firmware
Regions
thats it In reply of what i have read. everyone here its wellcome to contribute with valuable ideas....
 
Mar 29, 2020 at 9:40 PM Post #35,317 of 45,723
Only thing I will tell you is that I can hear diferences In:
Cable specially cheap ones... dont have much experience on expensive ones.
Firmware
Regions
thats it In reply of what i have read. everyone here its wellcome to contribute with valuable ideas....


When you get to a tier 4 or tier 5 level things change. When all your gear is super top top. Its much eaiser to feel those very little details and nuances as your gear almost show it in your face.

This is the reason why its so expensive as its precise tools for listening to music !

I do feel different cable on level acting differently and at that point is a question of what you like what you prefer vs each differences.

It also doesnt mean you need that top end expensive gear to enjoy music either....

Some folks like in the ier-z1r keep claiming that the stock sony cable is the holy grail lol

But god damn I heard the difference stock vs custom 8 wires cable and no thank you I keep the custom cable !

See people put preferences differently and maybe they like that cable so much and its comfortable and easy to use they forget those sound changes....
 
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Mar 30, 2020 at 2:16 AM Post #35,318 of 45,723
When you get to a tier 4 or tier 5 level things change. When all your gear is super top top. Its much eaiser to feel those very little details and nuances as your gear almost show it in your face.

This is the reason why its so expensive as its precise tools for listening to music !

I do feel different cable on level acting differently and at that point is a question of what you like what you prefer vs each differences.

It also doesnt mean you need that top end expensive gear to enjoy music either....

Some folks like in the ier-z1r keep claiming that the stock sony cable is the holy grail lol

But god damn I heard the difference stock vs custom 8 wires cable and no thank you I keep the custom cable !

See people put preferences differently and maybe they like that cable so much and its comfortable and easy to use they forget those sound changes....
agree with everything there :). There are laws of diminishing returns as well. Therefore, the higher you are going, the less you are going to benefits, but it is real, and of course that it could get expensive. But not all expensive cables are good, and not all cheap cables are bad either (yes, it is confusing. So hearing is believing)

I am one of those folks who loves the Stock IER Z1R. It is not the holy grails, but it is what staying on at the edges of the Diminishing return borderlines. In order to outperform it, a cables will have to be constructed and built in a way that would be very expensive. I will get there!

Remember, I don’t trolls, don’t BS, and I speak from experiences, and when it comes to “hearing and observing the differences in upgraded components, cables, materials...etc....and especially the latest is Firmwares that I have brought to you, My experiences is enough to demonstrate it to you already ” I don’t have golden ears, what I hear and observe, everyone else can also do. My differences from many of you is that I am very crazily be chasing sound quality, and I have the ability and the technical background to work and find out the truth behind it.

What bothers me the most however ? Is that people rather spend ways too much on a cables, while being hesitant about hardware modifications on pricing perspective. A cables is only a few plugs and solder joints, and some experiences needed, where as Hardware modifications need real skills, hard works, real experiences, and real enthusiasm to earn, accumulated, developed, enabled.

So please do answer me: why is it so hard to be paying $2300 for a cables rather than $2300 for a hardware modifications where the level of complexity is 100x harder and more complex ? I get it, it is your money to spend the way you want, and so it is people skills and labors to do with what they decide, whether to offer the services or not.

Now, do you see why not many places are going to offer you and bringing out the “holy grails” of your own players ?
 
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Mar 30, 2020 at 2:22 AM Post #35,319 of 45,723
agree with everything there :). There are laws of diminishing returns as well. Therefore, the higher you are going, the less you are going to benefits, but it is real, and of course that it could get expensive. But not all expensive cables are good, and not all cheap cables are bad either (yes, it is confusing. So hearing is believing)

I am one of those folks who loves the Stock IER Z1R. It is not the holy grails, but it is what staying on at the edges of the Diminishing return borderlines. In order to outperform it, a cables will have to be constructed and built in a way that would be very expensive. I will get there!

Remember, I don’t trolls, don’t BS, and I speak from experiences, and when it comes to “hearing and observing the differences in upgraded components, cables, materials...etc....and especially the latest is Firmwares that I have brought to you, My experiences is enough to demonstrate it to you already ” I don’t have golden ears, what I hear and observe, everyone else can also do. My differences from many of you is that I am very crazily be chasing sound quality, and I have the ability and the technical background to work and find out the truth behind it.

What bothers me the most however ? Is that people rather spend ways too much on a cables, while being hesitant about hardware modifications on pricing perspective. A cables is only a few plugs and solder joints, and some experiences needed, where as Hardware modifications need real skills, hard works, real experiences, and real enthusiasm to earn, accumulated, developed.

So please do answer me: why is it so hard to be paying $2300 for a cables rather than $2300 for a hardware modifications where the level of complexity is 100x harder and more complex ? I get it, it is your money to spend the way you want, and so it is people skills and labors to do with what they decide, whether to offer the services or not.

Now, do you see why not many places are going to offer you the “holy grails” of your own players ?
Also, not every hardware modifications are good, just like cables, it just have to be done right!!!! Not every platforms can benefit from hardware and software modifications, just like Cars and or other hobbies. Walkman WM1A/Z have tremendous potentials Hardware/Firmware wise.
 
Mar 30, 2020 at 3:32 AM Post #35,320 of 45,723
agree with everything there :). There are laws of diminishing returns as well. Therefore, the higher you are going, the less you are going to benefits, but it is real, and of course that it could get expensive. But not all expensive cables are good, and not all cheap cables are bad either (yes, it is confusing. So hearing is believing)

I am one of those folks who loves the Stock IER Z1R. It is not the holy grails, but it is what staying on at the edges of the Diminishing return borderlines. In order to outperform it, a cables will have to be constructed and built in a way that would be very expensive. I will get there!

Remember, I don’t trolls, don’t BS, and I speak from experiences, and when it comes to “hearing and observing the differences in upgraded components, cables, materials...etc....and especially the latest is Firmwares that I have brought to you, My experiences is enough to demonstrate it to you already ” I don’t have golden ears, what I hear and observe, everyone else can also do. My differences from many of you is that I am very crazily be chasing sound quality, and I have the ability and the technical background to work and find out the truth behind it.

What bothers me the most however ? Is that people rather spend ways too much on a cables, while being hesitant about hardware modifications on pricing perspective. A cables is only a few plugs and solder joints, and some experiences needed, where as Hardware modifications need real skills, hard works, real experiences, and real enthusiasm to earn, accumulated, developed, enabled.

So please do answer me: why is it so hard to be paying $2300 for a cables rather than $2300 for a hardware modifications where the level of complexity is 100x harder and more complex ? I get it, it is your money to spend the way you want, and so it is people skills and labors to do with what they decide, whether to offer the services or not.

Now, do you see why not many places are going to offer you and bringing out the “holy grails” of your own players ?

Likely it's the need to ship the player abroad for many, although with the right instruction any competent electronics tech could perform the internal mods. External cables and IEM's for that matter are frequently just a click away, with an easy return policy if any fault. Personally I think it's as simple as that.

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Mar 30, 2020 at 3:37 AM Post #35,321 of 45,723
Likely it's the need to ship the player abroad for many, although with the right instruction any competent electronics tech could perform the internal mods. External cables and IEM's for that matter are frequently just a click away, with an easy return policy if any fault. Personally I think it's as simple as that.

Q-6

this explanation goes both ways

Who is going to provide those instructions ? Hardware mods needs time and real experiences to develop. There are no free services manuals, some of them leaked out. But how do you know what components go where to “Tune” the hardware modifications ? Take WM1Z for example, a person who develops the hardware modifications is likely to be damaging his own expensive player.....how can any electricians be damaging any simple cables ?

Now, cables is different. You don’t need instructions, you need wires and plugs and bring to any electricians.

1 click away is simply a form of Connivence VS Demands. Then Supplies are obeying Demands and profit returns. It is simply economic 101. That means, if people pay up as much as cables and appreciate it as much, then there will be more “Done right hardware modifications” services at 1 click rather than Cables. However, cables services nowadays are through the roof.
 
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Mar 30, 2020 at 3:53 AM Post #35,322 of 45,723
Sooo...on a lighter note, I watched the 1st and 2nd episode of Tiger King: Murder, Mayhem and Madness on Netflix.

I thought I was insane crazy, these people takes the cakes man. Watched it and couldn't put it down for the life of me.


Definitely for you Vitaly2017, if Tiger its in your blood lol!


Highly recommended. It's insane entertainment.
 
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Mar 30, 2020 at 3:59 AM Post #35,323 of 45,723
this explanation goes both ways

Who is going to provide those instructions ? Hardware mods needs time and real experiences to develop. There are no free services manuals, some of them leaked out. But how do you know what components go where to “Tune” the hardware modifications ? Take WM1Z for example, a person who develops the hardware modifications is likely to be damaging his own expensive player.....how can any electricians be damaging any simple cables ?

Now, cables is different. You don’t need instructions, you need wires and plugs and bring to any electricians

I do agree, as long as the information is a available and it is to some extents, it should be doable. The real challenge is with those that try first, as let's be straight the Mod may or may not have the desired effect, equally those so committed have already done the homework and know the risks. As said cables you just plug in and if not to ones liking return or sell, entirely a simplistic model.

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Mar 30, 2020 at 4:13 AM Post #35,324 of 45,723
I do agree, as long as the information is a available and it is to some extents, it should be doable. The real challenge is with those that try first, as let's be straight the Mod may or may not have the desired effect, equally those so committed have already done the homework and know the risks. As said cables you just plug in and if not to ones liking return or sell, entirely a simplistic model.

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The same as the cables. Not all cables will synergize well with DAP and gears. But you are right on the call about “simplistic model” where you can turn around and sell it “at losses“ or “return” it.

This “simplistic model” can also be applied toward “hardware upgraded players”. But there are not enough demands and Profit to sustain the model. That is why there are rarely any places to offer “hardware mod”, let alone offering “simplistic models offer” such as “try it, buy it or return it”

I think it is because people rather sit and wait for “new players” from a manufacturer than upgrading their own player. Where as Cables, they can plugs and unplugs away. The cables technologies and offers are much slower “pace” than DAPs.

Anyways, until people is willing to pay that much into “hardwares mod”, there will be “more services”.
 
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Mar 30, 2020 at 4:25 AM Post #35,325 of 45,723
The same as the cables. Not all cables will synergize well with DAP and gears. But you are right on the call about “simplistic model” where you can turn around and sell it “at losses“ or “return” it.

This “simplistic model” can also be applied toward “hardware upgraded players”. But there are not enough demands and Profit to sustain the model. That is why there are rarely any places to offer “hardware mod”, let alone offering “simplistic models offer” such as “try it, buy it or return it”

I think it is because people rather sit and wait for “new players” from a manufacturer than upgrading their own player. Where as Cables, they can plugs and unplugs away. The cables technologies and offers are much slower “pace” than DAPs.

Anyways, until people is willing to pay that much into “hardwares mod”, there will be “more services”.

Valid indeed, as the easiest option for many, equally may not sound as good as a well thought out modified player. Personally I prefer to avoid a very sterile signature and love the musicality Sony presents.

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