SONY NW-WM1Z / WM1A
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Jan 21, 2019 at 2:33 AM Post #26,716 of 45,723
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qdc Anole V3 IEM #817993 (stock setting/Sony Hybrid Tips)(Han Sound Audio Zen 4 wire OCC litz copper cable terminated Furutech 4.4mm)
Sony NW-WM1A Digital Audio Player (Japanese Tourist Edition) FW 3.01
 
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Jan 21, 2019 at 4:36 AM Post #26,718 of 45,723
I also posted this in the ZX300 thread.

I've had a WM1A for a few months now. It's been awesome! The only problem is that it's not very pocketable, so I got a zx300 last week. I would have originally gotten the zx if not for people claiming that the wm1a had "10-20%" better SQ. Now that I've had these both side by side and have been comparing then both, I am curious to know exactly where people heard this difference because they sound pretty much the same to me. The are both as detailed. I can't pick up differences in less significant background instruments.. Soundstage sounds just as wide and with the same level of separation, etc.

Can someone tell me what to look for? Running both on balanced with my Rhapsodio Solar and Andromeda S.
 
Jan 21, 2019 at 5:00 AM Post #26,720 of 45,723
Redcarmoose what are you doing still on 2.0; go for the 3.01

Agreed! He doesn't know what he's missing.

I do you use 3.01 on the 1Z. I use the Bluetooth receiver function with 3.01 too. On the 1Z 3.01 is marvelous. Though there is a quality in the lower register which is complementary with 2.0 and the 1A. The 1A is a mess with 3.01, so I’m happy to keep it at 2.0.

You have to realize Sony was is walking a thin line making one firmware for two different sounding players. In a perfect world the new firmware would complement both players; unfortunately in my humble opinion it does not. I like the thickness which 2.0 gives the 1A sound. 3.01 with the 1A is too thin, in my opinion. Though this is subjective, so if people like 3.01 with their 1A, that’s great.

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I thought 3.0 was a mess with the 1A.
 
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Jan 21, 2019 at 5:07 AM Post #26,722 of 45,723
I do you use 3.01 on the 1Z. I use the Bluetooth receiver function with 3.01 too. On the 1Z 3.01 is marvelous. Though there is a quality in the lower register which is complementary with 2.0 and the 1A. The 1A is a mess with 3.01, so I’m happy to keep it at 2.0.

You have to realize Sony was is walking a thin line making one firmware for two different sounding players. In a perfect world the new firmware would complement both players; unfortunately in my humble opinion it does not. I like the thickness which 2.0 gives the 1A sound. 3.01 with the 1A is too thin, in my opinion. Though this is subjective, so if people like 3.01 with their 1A, that’s great.


Oh I thought that you hadn't yet tried 3.0.1 and your opinion of the thin-ness was in regard to 3.0.

3.0.1 is not a mess at all on the WM1A. There were big changes going from 3.0 to 3.0.1. Small incremental update on the number, but huge update in sound and UI quality .
 
Jan 21, 2019 at 5:07 AM Post #26,723 of 45,723
I also posted this in the ZX300 thread.

I've had a WM1A for a few months now. It's been awesome! The only problem is that it's not very pocketable, so I got a zx300 last week. I would have originally gotten the zx if not for people claiming that the wm1a had "10-20%" better SQ. Now that I've had these both side by side and have been comparing then both, I am curious to know exactly where people heard this difference because they sound pretty much the same to me. The are both as detailed. I can't pick up differences in less significant background instruments.. Soundstage sounds just as wide and with the same level of separation, etc.

Can someone tell me what to look for? Running both on balanced with my Rhapsodio Solar and Andromeda S.

It’s great that you think the two players sound the same. The ZX300 sounded way way warmer to me. But it may depend on people’s hearing and the IEMs they use. There are numerous folks here on this very thread who have upgraded from the ZX300 to the 1A, I’m sure if they are read your post, they will have an opinion. I only spent a very short time with the ZX300, so I don’t have much to go on. But I would suggest try more IEMs before selling off the bigger player, as there could be a difference noted later.
 
Jan 21, 2019 at 5:09 AM Post #26,724 of 45,723
It’s great that you think the two players sound the same. The ZX300 sounded way way warmer to me. But it may depend on people’s hearing and the IEMs they use. There are numerous folks here on this very thread who have upgraded from the ZX300 to the 1A, I’m sure if they are read your post, they will have an opinion. I only spent a very short time with the ZX300, so I don’t have much to go on. But I would suggest try more IEMs before selling off the bigger player, as there could be a difference noted later.
Someone in the ZX300 thread mentioned that the players sounded very similar before a recent update. Perhaps I'll have to try the past firmware versions because I'd be curious to great a more warm sound from it .
 
Jan 21, 2019 at 5:10 AM Post #26,725 of 45,723
Oh I thought that you hadn't yet tried 3.0.1 and your opinion of the thin-ness was in regard to 3.0.

3.0.1 is not a mess at all on the WM1A. There were big changes going from 3.0 to 3.0.1. Small incremental update on the number, but huge update in sound and UI quality .

Wow! First to read that. Thank-you, I will update to 3.01 and try the to see if I like it. I thought 3.01 and 3 sounded the same on the 1A.

Cool!
 
Jan 21, 2019 at 5:14 AM Post #26,726 of 45,723
Wow! First to read that. Thank-you, I will update to 3.01 and try the to see if I like it. I thought 3.01 and 3 sounded the same on the 1A.

Cool!
I'm happy that I could clear that up for you! I tried 3.0 and hated it so bad I went way back to 1.2 lol. 3.0.1 is wonderful though. Good clean bass and treble, clarity and somehow a beautiful Soundstage as well.. though that improvement may have just been in my head.

I'm curious to hear your thoughts on it after you update.
 
Jan 21, 2019 at 5:15 AM Post #26,727 of 45,723
Someone in the ZX300 thread mentioned that the players sounded very similar before a recent update. Perhaps I'll have to try the past firmware versions because I'd be curious to great a more warm sound from it .

It’s safe to say every firmware update changes the sound of the players. I simply mistakenly thought that 3.0 and 3.01 sounded the same, but apparently they are different. The 1Z to me sounds the same with 3.01 and 3.0. Apparently 3.01 and 3.0 sound sound different with the 1A. It may be that the ZX300 sounds different with every update?
 
Jan 21, 2019 at 5:45 AM Post #26,728 of 45,723
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Redcarmoose what are you doing still on 2.0; go for the 3.01

Agreed! He doesn't know what he's missing.

My God! 3.01 is a completely diffferent animal in the 1A from 3.0?

Funny I never read it here? And I’m always here?

Thanks so much. Feel like I have a new player. Though I’ll know more after a couple days of listening. How weird as 3.0 and 3.01 sound the same on the 1Z?
 
Jan 21, 2019 at 5:49 AM Post #26,729 of 45,723




My God! 3.01 is a completely diffferent animal in the 1A from 3.0?

Funny I never read it here? And I’m always here?

Thanks so much. Feel like I have a new player. Though I’ll know more after a couple days of listening. How weird as 3.0 and 3.01 sound the same on the 1Z?

Haha glad you're enjoying it! I think Sony was listening to us and knew the 1A needed a sound change but people were happy with the 1Z so they left it alone. That's my theory at least and it makes me happy to think that.

We all miss things!
 
Jan 21, 2019 at 6:26 AM Post #26,730 of 45,723




My God! 3.01 is a completely diffferent animal in the 1A from 3.0?

Funny I never read it here? And I’m always here?

Thanks so much. Feel like I have a new player. Though I’ll know more after a couple days of listening. How weird as 3.0 and 3.01 sound the same on the 1Z?

I find 3.01 more to my liking than 3.0 on my 1Z. More organic, natural sounding and 3d like.

Also like the vinyl processor a lot.
 
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