[penartur]

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A WAV file will repeat the same O/I over and over again if necessary to complete a track where a FLAC (or similar file) will take note of repetitive O/Is and effectively reduce the file size.  MP3 takes it a step further by doing more interpolation.

Roughly speaking, FLAC notices that there is 999 zeros and instead of "000....000" outputs "999x0". Or, if there is 499 zeros, then 1 one, then again 499 zeros, it outputs "499x0,1x1,499x0", where PCM would output "00000000...0000000000000100000000000...0000000000". In the latter situation, MP3 will believe that there is nothing significant in that "one" alone, and that it could be safely ignored, so MP3 outputs "999x0". It is not quantitative difference between FLAC and MP3 like "MP3 is doing more interpolation and FLAC is doing less interpolation". It is qualitative difference, MP3 does throw some insignificant (by its opinion) bits away, and FLAC preserves every bit.
This is why FLAC is called lossless and MP3 is called lossy. Lossless = there is no any loss of data, you can convert FLAC back to PCM WAV, and the resulting file will be bitwise identical to the original one; it is just like putting your documents into a ZIP archive doesn't make these only "99% identical" to an original ones. Lossy = there is loss of data (although it could be barely hearable), and if you will convert MP3 to PCM WAV, it will not be bitwise identical to the original one.
FLAC is 100% identical to the original. MP3... well, it depends of the exact codec you use, of its settings, and of how you will measure that percentage... that could be somewhere between 1% and 90%. AAC... let's say about 5% and 95%. Generally, AAC produces better results than MP3 on the same bitrates. Both will never produce 100% result (unless you're compressing silence),

 

[SoulSyde]

FYI - I'm done with this discussion.

 

[tds101]

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FYI - I'm done with this discussion.

Just go to his profile and put him on "Ignore", as I did. He seems to ruin every thread he enters.

 

[SoulSyde]

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Just go to his profile and put him on "Ignore", as I did. He seems to ruin every thread he enters.

Thanks ; )

 

[penartur]

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Just go to his profile and put him on "Ignore", as I did. He seems to ruin every thread he enters.

By saying that "lossless" means "there is no loss" in response to "lossless is 99% of PCM and MP3 is 99% of PCM"?

 

[AndyT87]

what the hell? they still havn't released the 32gb and 64gb a840 in the uk/europe (only 16 ugh) and new models are announced! really want one aswell, regretted selling my x-series, especially as they're now discontinued in the uk (afaik) ...anyone know if a european release date has been set yet for the 32/64gb a series? sorry I'm a bit out of the loop and couldn't find anything through searching

 

[tds101]

Anytime!!!

 
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Thanks ; )

I'm dieing to get a 64gb Sony here in the USA myself, so I feel your pain.
 
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what the hell? they still havn't released the 32gb and 64gb a840 in the uk/europe (only 16 ugh) and new models are announced! really want one aswell, regretted selling my x-series, especially as they're now discontinued in the uk (afaik) ...anyone know if a european release date has been set yet for the 32/64gb a series? sorry I'm a bit out of the loop and couldn't find anything through searching

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[penartur]

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what the hell? they still havn't released the 32gb and 64gb a840 in the uk/europe (only 16 ugh) and new models are announced!

You should not be so upset with it, because it seems that there actually is no any difference (except for some unneeded software features) between a840 and a850

 

[AndyT87]

well yeah, they bring out a new model in japan before they have even released the first model in uk/europe...lame.
 
i see it says you own the NW-A847 64GB in your sig...so I assume that this has japanese menus...i want the english one...when it's gonna be available sony??? or should i just get a 32gb card for my clip+ and be done with it?!

 

[AndyT87]

 

[Dreamnine]

I would get the 32Gb card for your Clip+ and be done with it.

 

[Achmedisdead]

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well yeah, they bring out a new model in japan before they have even released the first model in uk/europe...lame.
 
i see it says you own the NW-A847 64GB in your sig...so I assume that this has japanese menus...i want the english one...when it's gonna be available sony??? or should i just get a 32gb card for my clip+ and be done with it?!

This. Unless you don't mind carrying cards.....the 16GB is only about $30, as opposed to $100+ for the 32GB. But then you need a way to carry the little suckers without losing them, since they are so tiny. Or, you could get a second Clip+  with a 16GB card in each one....that's what I have.

 

[AndyT87]

yeah, the 32gb cards are a total rip off, 4x the price of the 16gb over here, but I don't mind paying;well I do!, but I will pay for the convenience, though it is a bit annoying.

 

[tds101]

Hey, I was crazy enough to get a 32gb microSD card,................I understand I might have overpaid ($100.00 USD range) but it's serving me well in my Cowon J3. Still, a 64gb Sony is my Mecca!!!!

 

[bestnaru]

Damn
I miss that bookmark function of Sony. It's basically on the go playlist that many players already have for too long. 
Guess I want one then.